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#1 Posted : 3/8/2010 12:10:02 PM

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Hey,

Does anyone know what potency one can expect from the green flesh Achuma (Trichocereus bridgesii/Echinopsis lageniformis)? I realize there are great variations, but it would nonetheless be good to hear if, let's say, 20 dried grams could be sufficient for a moderate trip.
 

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#2 Posted : 3/8/2010 12:27:54 PM

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Evening Glory wrote:
Hey,

Does anyone know what potency one can expect from the green flesh Achuma (Trichocereus bridgesii/Echinopsis lageniformis)? I realize there are great variations, but it would nonetheless be good to hear if, let's say, 20 dried grams could be sufficient for a moderate trip.


Not experienced with this plant myself, but from what I hear depending on the achuma it should send you pretty damn far.
 
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#3 Posted : 3/8/2010 4:21:26 PM

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It 100% depends on the potency (based on genetics, age, and growing conditions).

However someone who has tried Pedro, Torch, and Achuma, I can easily say that Achuma is my favorite cactus to work with. It, to me, is stimulating, but can bring on some of the most amazing visions.

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#4 Posted : 3/8/2010 4:23:20 PM

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My Achuma is pretty Dreamy /Sedating ....
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#5 Posted : 3/8/2010 8:20:58 PM

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Swim and his friend split a 12" cutting. There were swirling visuals (like coming up on LSD) but it was very sedating. He wants to to try san pedro next time.
 
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#6 Posted : 3/9/2010 2:23:40 AM

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Out of all the trichos, I love achuma. When I take a small dose, less than 200mg of uncleaned acetate, I really don't seem to get much of an effect from the other alkaloids. If I take a dose less than 200mg I mostly feel the mescaline, 2-3 hours after dosing. A low dose for achuma is closer in effect to a low dose of sanpedro or peruvian. Of course this might be different for others, and for other cacti.

It seems to be much richer in alkaloids, both in variety and amount. All of these alkaloids make the experience a roller coaster ride of sorts. I like to take 0.8-1.5g of achuma for a crazy "ride." I will describe a 1.5g achuma acetate dose:

I took the does at 11:05am, about an hour after eating toast and eggs. I can feel the effect within 15-20 minutes. I vomited 40 mintues after dosing. My body "knew" it had been poisoned, but I held it in as long as I could. I think most of the nausea came from not putting the acetate in a gel-cap. (Drinking and eating achuma flesh, normally makes this first 2-4 hours an agonizing journey, for my stomach. The extract in a gelcap eliminates all nausea for me, even during the first hours.)
The first 2-3 hours are very sedative, hypnotic, sleepy, dreamy. I find myself yawning a lot, just like mushrooms. I spend most of this time with my eyes closed listening to music, curled up in a fetal position, covered in a blanket. I have awesome closed eye visuals, very realistic, sometimes static/unmoving, similar to the CEVs I can have with great shrooms. When I open my eyes everything seems kinda misty, blurry, with halos. This haze can largely, but not completely to the fact that my glasses are thoroughly scratched. The haziness of the lens becomes more apparent as my depth perception, etc. starts being affected. Lines and edges stick out more. Looks kinda like a dream may be portrayed in a movie. The buzz is very physical, but nice like an opiate buzz, great euphoria. Nausea is present, but comes and goes.
After about 4 hours the nausea has left. I actually feel like doing something. I get up out of bed. I do dishes, laundry. About, 6 hours into it I feel like eating. But, just some fruit, a pear. I then dare to go outside to sweep the fallen leaves off the stairs. I "feel" like it is beautiful outside. When I look up at the trees. I can see beautiful lace-work patterning of the branches. It's not like strong lsd visuals, but similar. Things seem to be more shiny. Bright colors just "glow." More like MDMA visuals mixed with LSD visuals.
I notice a great empathy towards my cat, wanting to cuddle. I spend what feels like hours petting him at one point. I was really enjoying the pleasure he was getting from me petting him. After about the 7-8th hour I start to try to "bring myself down." I feel jittery, like the end of a acid or an e trip. I take valerian root extract and make some chamomile tea. I smoke a lot of pot, bowl after bowl. I feel great, the euphoria is just awesome. Nitrous seems to bring out the fading visuals, such as making my "trails" longer. It also helps me calm down. Talking is very easy. I find myself looking through my phone to find people I can contact. I spend some time playing around on the interent. I am not hungry whatsoever, just thirsty.
Sleep isn't very hard, but isn't very easy either. I fall asleep sometime after midnight, probably before 1-2am. Wake up about 8am feeling great, refreshed. I like sanpedro and peruvian, but only bridgessi has that awesome prelude to the mescaline trip.

I've only take 1.5 grams of extract once. I don't think I will be doing that often or anytime again, soon. It was very intense. Again, a roller coaster ride.
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#7 Posted : 3/9/2010 4:30:43 AM

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Observant wrote:
My Achuma is pretty Dreamy /Sedating ....


SWIM has tried achuma from about 10 different vendors and it's always dreamy/sedating as you said. I keep hearing others say it's stimulating. It must affect different people in different ways. The only one SWIM finds stimulating is the Torch.
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#8 Posted : 3/9/2010 2:46:38 PM

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^ Yes real Torch (or at least what I have seen presented repeatedly as "real Peruvian Torch"Pleased IS stimulating, but for me it lasts throughout the experience, but not with the stregnth that achuma has for me.

With achuma, for me, the stimulation comes more at the begining (~ hour 2-5), sometimes before any other effects have started. This will usally build up as the mescaline is kicking in. After a while the stimulation tapers off into a mellow dreamy state that can last for the remaining experience...but I have had that stimulation come back after a dreamy stage.

Out of all the T. sp. Achuma is the most unpredictable in it's more subtle effects, but is still by far my favorite.

It seems this one is different for a lot of people, or maybe there are just varieties of achuma that have different ratios of actives, but either way, the stock that I keep and use seems to have similar effects (not exact by a long shot mearly similar) for most people that partake of them.

It's good medicine. I usually feel like I've been through surgery the day after though, others report a wonderful afterglow...this I've never had. A day or two later I am usually feeling 200x better than the day before the experience.
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#9 Posted : 3/9/2010 10:29:33 PM

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acolon_5 wrote:

With achuma, for me, the stimulation comes more at the begining (~ hour 2-5), sometimes before any other effects have started. This will usally build up as the mescaline is kicking in. After a while the stimulation tapers off into a mellow dreamy state that can last for the remaining experience...but I have had that stimulation come back after a dreamy stage.


Ahh yes, I forgot to mention this part. During the come up (before any visuals) it is very energetic. Swim and his friend couldn't stop lauging and talking. It goes from that energy to being totally sedating. It was even making me yawn. Swim tried it indoors, but he feels it would be better on a hike or something.
 
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#10 Posted : 3/10/2010 3:25:32 PM

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^ Don't know why, but I yawn when coming up on anything, even something stimulating like MDMA gives me major yawns before kicking in.

But yeah, for me, Achuma brings almost a mania of energy even before the psycadelics effects happen. There is SOMETHING stimulating in Achuma that takes much less time to be absorbed and processed in the body, at least that’s my hypothesis for now.
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#11 Posted : 3/10/2010 4:45:10 PM

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^ I believe it could be Phenylethylamine (body building supp) or a variation of it. Feels very similar at least. Look at the alkaloids in this link

http://books.google.com/...0in%20cactus&f=false
 
 
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