Once when SWIM was meditating before and after the influence of smoked DMT,
He came upon an incredible place of symmetry and perfection. a central axis ran up and through the body,
and everything became a reflection of a reflection of a reflection of the axis. As SWIM would alter his position
slightly or loose his focus a little, the axis would shift and bend into many directions simultaneously becoming less centred
and from this alsort of other reflections and imperfections would arise.

The strange thing is, in terms of visuals, this place was mightilly fine in terms of complexity, but absoloutely still
and naught in terms of change. zero movement, zero change, complete peace.
- and so, in terms of an 'interesting experience' - not actually very interesting at all.

however, now, I am very very interested in this. Many artists have painted this,
namely luke brown and alex gray. (see: totems) I read recently that though meditation, one can experience
different realms of vibration, becoming increasingly abstract as we rise up.

I beleive that pharmahuasca and meditation will lead me to new and prfound awareness, based on my experience.
I think that these things, naturally, are designed to be used for such spiritual purposes. that is why the board here
is obsessed with purity. Obsessed with ritual, obsessed with 'the sacrement'. It is the spices nature, shining through.
One very promising thing; in bhuddas' story It says that once he attained enlightenment, it was permament.
"Man's mind, once stretched by a new idea, never regains its original dimensions." - Oliver Wendell Holmes
So, any awareness or consiousness expansion attained in this state should be permament and irreversable.

Anyone with any decent DMT experience under their belt will be able to tell you that there are beautiful shimmering
places and there are intense unpleasant places. You can visit them both.

So - to my question: Has anyone any reports to make of adventures with the spirt molecule to the astral, mental planes?
the planes of infinite consiousness? or infinite awareness? (places described in literature about bhudda's journey to enlightenment.)

The spice opens you up to a higher octave of frequencies that are always there, but are easily seen via neurotransmission.
Here, "infinite consciousness" is timelessly encapsulated in eternal moments.
You can span wide macrocosmic distances, which can feel like infinite, a few hundred yards of forest, or a thousand galaxies.
Focus, expand.
You can shrink down to an atomic observer as well.

Riding the scaffolding whether it's inside, outside, or both
is definitely the best way to reach this "new and profound awareness"
as well as evolve more rapidly than ever before.

I know exactly what you're talking about, it's been the focus of my journeys lately. It's kinda like this picture:



When you see it for yourself (and it's pretty hilarious that you actually can) that face is pure perfection.

What happened to me is that I took a lot of the spirit molecule then got thrust into a plane essentially like that of the matrix, where your mind interacts with the molecule to create exactly what you want to see. It was amazing, nothing more to be said.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XPfeOB4Yq8

It all makes sense in terms of chaos theory. Lets say everything is energy wobbling at whatever frequency. Infinity is god. Now mathematically, infinity / 60kg = infinity, 60kg/infinity = 0, relatively (take limits). Yet, 60kg = 60kg, and chances are that 60kg is alive and wants infinite kg. So 60kg must channel that 60kg into infinity and it is possible purely because we have DMT in our brains, the spirit molecule that says that this 60kg is worth infinite kg in reality because everything is infinite. The ego is that which says 60kg is 59kg, or 61kg or whatever because thats what the ego wants. In reality, 60kg = 60kg. If the ego says 60kg = 60kg, it is not the ego, it is the Self. The Self is that which exists, ego is anything that disagrees. Unfortunately for the ego, the Self exists and will exist for eternity. So wherever you are, give in equal measure, the reality is that you can satisfy and attain peace for the ego you have only if that ego wants 60kg for 60kg.



Meditate on that and take a fat hit of some spirit moldecule cos you be wanting that spirit all night long baby

Don't think I am preaching, because I am not, this is what I believe to be the case. In reality, what is the case is indeed the case, and if I believe what is, is, then I am correct. If not, tough shit bitch.

VNV Nation also know what the fuck is up, read the lyrics to their albums, its very similar to certain things conveyed in the quran. What the fuck is up, is indeed up, and if you know what the fuck is up, then you KNOW what the fuck is up and from that results eternal glory.

DMT is without a shade of a doubt the spirit molecule. My theory is that there's an alien consciousness out there, those humanoid smooth ass doctors you see that sent DMT into the earth, and *shazzam*, awaken. DMT is only DMT, but it gives us the abilty to see things, because you cannot see without light. Light, is infinite beauty in its own self because it can be split into infinitely small packects and you can arrange those packets of energy in whatever manner to produce things of any level of complexity and scale.

It's only when you don't disturb the balance, which is what you wish to attain when meditating, that you get infinity. In reality, we are pure perfection, mathematically becuase God demands no less. Done and dusted An example is there I said "youget", we dont see that as right, we see "you get" as right, because then everything makes sense gramatically. But in reality, everything does make sense mathematically and energy in that chaos, hits other chaos, where things say yep that shall matter, then you have a point, an atom, etc. The universe is infinitely beautiful physically because God demands none less, and nothing more. And because God demands that balance, he constructs with the wavefunction of the universe, but God is also the universe and infinity, so he resonates with his own being of pure infinite perfection.

Another example is smoking, there are times when it is right to put nicotine into your brain. If you put that nicotine into your brain, at that time, you exist. If not, "you" cease to exist, that nicotine is not placed into that brain at that time, that is the metaphysical reality of the universe, infinite possibilty exists because there is infinite possibility which exists because there is infinite possibility, you get the point. That "you", in that moment, is nicotine in that brain. There are times when smoking will attain the peace, and in those times, smoke in peace! Because peace results in more peace, the wobbles construct to become peaceful, peace = 0 = infinity in a roundabout way. This is the symmetry you are talking about. Another example is two flat mirrors. If they face each other dead oppositely, then you get eternal light. If the alignment is off, then distortions result, which is also what you talked about in your post.

Lets say your brain is a computer, input, process, output. Take input, process CORRECTLY = infinite beauty. Resonate with the wavefunction of the universe, it's like pissing into an ocean of piss. If not, then that piss aint shaped in that manner, etc.

Everything is handsome, that is the infinite beauty of the universe. Because everything is in equal measure, everything is in equal measure.

Thanks for the golden ratio fractal explanation there. Weird that you pasted some VNV, Thanks for that too, I just recently got into them again.
Im glad somone else has experieced the real experiences which inspired alex greys work, and it is completely insane that we can all experience those things that he has so vividly reconstructed.

Here's the luke brown painting that I was actualy in/experiencing.

True, but it can also open up to a lower octave of frequencies. As we all know there are bad places in hyperspace too. Fear will take you there.

Yeah, sure. But fear must exist for love to exist. As above so below, the higher cannot exist without the lower. So, don't look down on it. It is what it is.

Fear has nothing to do with low frequencies. Fear usually generates a faster heart beat which accelerates the oscillation of the CNS.
Regardless, neurotransmission unveils previously unperceived frequencies, which exist at a much higher spectrum than normally perceived.

CNS operational oscillations are basically at the bottom of our Hz scale, just below our audible spectrum.
I speculate that the light that envelopes a traveling soul occurs somewhere a lot higher than the audibles, and up there into the light.

I cannot wait until there is a way to scientifically test this hyperspatial data.

You're right, I don't know how to marry the ideas of fear and love with the various frequency planes of reality. (physical, etheric, mental: astral, ...) I was only pointing out that the lower frequencies must exist. The universe is fractal, a change will produce a change all the way throughout the fractal from the higher to the lower. It just so happens that the expression is far greater, more intricate, more detailed, more vibrant in the higher frequencies than it is in the lower. It is no less or no more 'valid' because it is one and the same with the lower. i've seen it myself, and i've read and heard about it from people like nassim haramein.

shoe wow that is an awesome painting thanks for posting. its so accurate to scenes in 'hyperspace'. cool will have to check out more of that guys stuff.

I have heard fear has a lot to do with a low frequency as well. Unfortunately any scales or measurement of existence we use are based only from our senses of perceived reality. And any subatomic material we observe seems to change what its doing once watched. But yeah.. hopefully someday we can actually test hyperspatial data in a way that would make sense to the rest of society.

All im saying is fear elevates heart rate thus boosting the frequency of le brain.

There are wave forms in the universe that are over 1 light year long for one cycle.

How ridiculously mind boggling is that?

Very insightful. Another way to explain this, is that because nothing matters, everything matters. Fear = darkness, love = light. Lately I've been talking about situations and in the end I say "in REALITY", because you don't fuck with reality as I explained earlier. However, fuck with reality, you wobble in sync with the wobbles of perfection, and more realities are apparent, they are known as "children".

That Luke Brown painting is very interesting. When I started tripping on mimosa initially, I saw three humanoid gray smooth doctors who clearly knew what the fuck was up with why we exist. They don't exist in the plane of existence, we do. And we channel our energy in a manner that results in more energy that can channel energy, that is reproduction. In that picture, there are also three such alien beings although not in the form I saw them. The point is, these fuckers liked what they saw.



God, of course, is that dealer.



Not mind boggling whatsoever. One example of such a waveform is a photon. If a photon's wavelength = 1 light year, then it cycles over a light year, done and dusted.

I did not know that about the photon!! FASCINATING!

I can tell you a lot more. As a physicist, I know what the fuck is up. What the fuck is up is indeed what the fuck is up. If you know what the fuck is up, more power to you!

Check this out:





Handsome is that which is in proportion so it can flow with time, so it flows on

Ramble on, Mr. Physicist!

Shall do!



I have an idea. It may be right or wrong but in REALITY, what is right is right! So the idea is that suppose all energy units (photons, matter, etc) are connected with each other. In special relativity, if you are outside the light cone of a particular observer, that observer will NEVER observe you. However if it is within that light cone, it is fundamentally interconnected, this is a striking property of the universe. Now suppose you have a particle. Within the boundaries of its light cone (speed of light x time is the distance) is another particle, or many. Each of those are connected to others. So they share light cones, given due time. Now if everything is fundamentally completely connected (i.e. no particle stands out of that greater shared light cone) then you come to this interesting thing, where you get two objects orbiting around the central axis, particle A is on one end of the light cone and B is on the other side. A is as far to the left as it gets, B is as far to the right as it gets. If A or B were not right at THE ends, then we wouldn't exist because our reality demands handsomeness, perfection. From this symmetry, you can presumably mathematically derive the physical rules of reality.



The two halves are A and B. Those paths are like photons. From a photon's perspective in special relativity, there is no time, a photon is simply a path from A to B. Where they meet at the center which is the Beginning and the End, there is God.

Alex Grey knows what the fuck is up:



A and B are those sacred mirrors. If the mirrors line up (A is all the way to one side, B is all the way to the other) then the result is perfection. Anything else is a distortion, as talked about in the original post.

Take this image as an analogy:



In the centre stands God, the whole, the one force that channels all the energy in existence. On the sides, everything explodes into fractals of infinite complexity, powered by the timeless energy of the centre point. When this energy is channeled through the dimension of time, profound symmetry breaking results in that energy taking form, rather than existing in a state of unity.



Meditate on this while in a state of DMT induced ego loss and you will understand.

Another interesting thing is this, the universe is a sum of all the energy packets it is split into. So thats I = hΣf(n) where h = planck's constant, f = frequency of energy packets. If you tell a lie, you are introducing an incorrect term into that equation and the rules of this universe are such that this balances out, you will eventually get paid back exactly for what you incorrectly introduced into that equation.

Also:



Two opposing golden spirals result in this beautiful fractal. You can see where I'm going with this. Although, if other opposing spirals result in such wonderfully proportionate fractals then I don't really have a point.

Thankyou everyone, great that I could cause such interesting discussion.

Here is a list of the seven chakras in increasing order, or frequency of vibration; from the tantric system.

Muladhara
Chakra one
Survival.

Svadhisthana
Chakra two
Emotions and sexuality.

Manipura (Nabhi)
Chakra three
Power and will.

Anahata
Chakra four
Love and balance.

Vishudda
Chakra five
Communication and creativity.

Agnya (Ajna)
Chakra six
Intuition and imagination.

Sahasrara
Chakra seven
Knowledge and understanding

Let me just indicate that you should try and aspire to use your seventh chakra and to be at that place of high vibration as often as possible. I think. If this is wrong, tell me.

and here is a map of vibrational levels of reality, or planes of existance, from the spiritualist church.



I beleive these two have a good deal of correspondence. again if this is wrong, tell me.

I am calling bullshit on this sorry.

I am also calling bullshit on that entire website you cited. Its crap and no one should take it seriously. Intelligent design new age bullshit 100%.

Why hasn't this guy published in real peer reviewed scientific journals? Oh yea if you listen to him try to defend himself he'll say "they don't like our theories there too fringe" etc etc etc BULLSHIT! Thats how you know someone is full of it. You can also know when someone is full of it when the only information you can find about their theory is on new age websites.

Not only that we can debate the finer points of this so called theory if you want. But I am not a physicist. However even I with my humble knowledge on the subject can see when someone is full of it.

http://www.bautforum.com...ether-physics-model.html

Here you can watch this guy sadly try to defend himself and his theories in front of a bunch of physics students on a web board.



I am also calling bullshit on chakras again. Why? Because they are not real! Get over it!


hahahah im just messing around but being serious at the same time. Guy who posted that stuff can you please explain why you were interested in this website. I am especially curious because you said you were into physics.

Lies I tell ya! They're all lies!!

Compassion~

I have no compassion sympathy or patience for nonsense. Oh wait sorry I have to edit this. I like nonsense lots of kinds of nonsense funny fun nonsense. I have no sympathy for nonsense masquarading as science. That really pisses me off and is why I need to call bullshit on this one.