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how to make 5 meo nmt hydrogen oxalate? is their and hydrogen oxalate version of 5 meo dmt? Options
 
mdmarty
#1 Posted : 10/12/2023 8:57:41 AM
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like the title says im trying to seperate 5 meo nmt and 5 meo dmt, is the hydrogen oxalate made just by adding c02? will it only convert the nmt and not dmt? how do you make nmt hydrogen oxalate? thanks
 

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#2 Posted : 10/12/2023 3:15:05 PM

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mdmarty wrote:
like the title says im trying to seperate 5 meo nmt and 5 meo dmt, is the hydrogen oxalate made just by adding c02? will it only convert the nmt and not dmt? how do you make nmt hydrogen oxalate? thanks

I honestly think you should stop in your practical chemistry attempts at least until you've learned which salts CO2 forms and which acid makes oxalates. At present it appears your lack of knowledge is putting you at risk of harming yourself and others.

Search for some online chemistry education resources and get back to us.

PS oxalates are formed from oxalic acid so the answer to your first question is no. You most definitely need to be cautious about the assumptions you're making on the basis of your rudimentary awareness of chemistry.




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mdmarty
#3 Posted : 10/14/2023 2:39:42 AM
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yes I know what salts are lmao this is something completely differnt
 
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#4 Posted : 10/14/2023 3:05:15 AM

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When they said "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing," what do you think they might have meant by that?




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#5 Posted : 10/14/2023 7:28:23 AM
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N-methyltyramine hydrogen oxalate, C9H13NO.C2H2O4: m.p. 250 °C; very poorly soluble in water.[15]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-Methyltyramine


thats what im talking about is it just oxalic acid and nmt. so i could add oxalic acid to nmt/dmt and it would seperate in a sep funnel?
 
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#6 Posted : 10/14/2023 3:31:23 PM

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You do understand the difference between tyramine and tryptamine, don't you? Because you don't yet appear to know what a sep funnel is used for.

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