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Experiment - Induce clinical death while on DMT Options
 
Dokroma
#1 Posted : 8/28/2023 4:26:34 PM

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What if someone ingested DMT, had their heart stop beating and then was revived shortly before brain death occurred. What do you think they would be experiencing? Do you think that as soon as the heart stops they would lose any sort of consciousness, or would they stay in the DMT world?
 

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#2 Posted : 8/28/2023 4:44:21 PM

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You're asking a speculative question about a hypothetical medical experiment - and one for which it would be hard to obtain ethical approval, at that. Rather than messing with heart function, wouldn't it be simpler to use anoxia/asphyxiation instead, since that's the major physiological correlate resulting from cessation of heartbeat?

People do not (edit: not necessarily, at least) lose consciousness immediately during a heart attack. On the other hand, I have fallen asleep straight after smoking some DMT...




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#3 Posted : 8/28/2023 5:27:06 PM

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People can lose consciousness about 6 seconds after a truly massive heart attack. That's the time it takes for the blood supply to drop out of the brain due to gravity's effect.

If you witness is happening the person may or may not act like they are in pain but they will literally just suddenly fall to the ground and be unrevivable.

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#4 Posted : 8/28/2023 8:15:44 PM

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May i ask what added value you would expect DMT to provide to a near death experience?
 
 
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