I dont know how to even describe or ask about this. But this experience was unlike any so far.

The beautiful unexplainable visuals were there this time, but they were all jerking around very violently unlike any I had seen yet!

I just remember thinking, "Why the hell is everything shaking violently up and down this time?". I was wondering if perhaps the DMT entities were angry with me or something?

I have no idea. It was still mind blowingly beautiful, just had a very violent overtone to the visuals this time.

Anyone else ever had anything like this happen?

Guess you really never know what to expect with this stuff

Could accidently burning it a little this time have anything to do with this? hmmm

I've never done it, but I've heard that spice doesn't like being burned, alright, and that if you do you can get a spanking Inside. But as I say, I can't confirm that myself.

Burning Spice just tastes horrid, I doupt that that is the reason for this experience.

Were your eyes closed or open? I find that whe my eyes are open at higher doses things get crazy, jerky visuals and hard to understand whats going on.

My eyes were open like always gamma. Since using the torch lighter, I just take it all in one rip and immediately sit back and close my eyes and wait for it.

This time was so crazy and different, and jerky and violent.

I remember thinking "I really wish everything wasn't jerking like this" and even tried to open my eyes because I was so confused at one point, but everything around the room was jerking so I just closed them and waited it out..

Usually the visuals are so smooth, profound, calming and beautiful, this time they were so jerky and violent I couldn't make anything out but colors.

I also remember thinking "I sure hope this doesn't happen again next time". So I cannot wait until my next journey to see how different it is.

If I learned anything from this experience it is that you never know what to expect with this stuff

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But yes, you can never really expect anything with this stuff, expect the unexpected I say.

On any breakthrough dose, the open-eye stuff is often disconcerting. I distinctly remember a piano trying to be in two places at the same time and flipping between them at megahertz cycle.

Bigger dose, and yes, closed-eye geometry can come at you like a fucking steam train :-o

A few questions: how did you take it? ANd how much of a dose?

It was a 35-40 mg dose or so and I vaped it all in one hit with a torch lighter and oil burner pipe.

The method has been pretty effective for me.

Because of that experience last night, I wanted to dive into hyperspace again later on in the night, just to make sure it wasn't going to be all violent again!

Little did I know, that the next time would be my most beautiful experience yet.

I was thinking perhaps I did a little much and heard how things get crazier the more times you smoke in one day, so I brought it down into to 25 mg dose range.

I ripped it up, and went to heaven.

I cannot even put into words how beautiful that experience was, like I cannot even put into words how confusing/disorienting the first violent one was.

It is crazy how these experiences are just so beyond words! I want to explain what I experienced but I just have no idea how to articulate it!

I dont understand how some people write these in depth trip reports on smoked DMT. Mine are just so mind bogglingly unworldly that there is no words to describe them!

Put that one in the 'inexplicable' column, then :-)) We just never know where it's going to take us.... gald to hear this had a happy ending for you

peace

My last trips where also like that, when it comes up i can see clownlike faces jumping in all directions but mostly from left to right, very fast, this is when my eyes are still open, not smooth at all, this happened two times on a row, the exact same thing, that's why i thought i should wait a little before tripping on DMT again, i'm waiting for two months now and still the spice didn't call me yet.

I guess i gotta take that step myself then.