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mad_banshee
#1 Posted : 2/23/2010 10:30:35 PM

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So swim decided that he likes jungle better than standard spice. In the past he has been extracting with naptha first, and then pulling the remaining jungle with xylene. If he just extracts only with xylene will he get all the spice out or will it leave some behind that the naptha would have gotten otherwise?

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#2 Posted : 2/23/2010 10:35:26 PM

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xylene will pull dmt more effectively than naptha
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#3 Posted : 2/23/2010 10:58:16 PM

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benzyme wrote:
xylene will pull dmt more effectively than naptha


Ok, so I guess that means that I don't need to concern myself with using naptha.
I have a safe outdoors-ish area to evap the xylene, so I guess I won't bother with naptha extracting anymore. Thanks for the response.

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#4 Posted : 2/23/2010 11:21:59 PM

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xylene sucks! why dont you get limonene instead? its the choice between the devil's gasoline station or mother nature's orange bosom Razz
 
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more like mother nature's annoying/excessively cheery daughter

use toluene, if you can get it; dmt is much more soluble in it
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#6 Posted : 2/23/2010 11:51:31 PM

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endlessness wrote:
xylene sucks! why dont you get limonene instead? its the choice between the devil's gasoline station or mother nature's orange bosom Razz


Cost and availability. Xylene is cheaper and easier to come by, and like I said, I happen to have a safe good place to evap it so it's not a problem.
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#7 Posted : 2/24/2010 1:32:39 AM

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Mad_Banshee, why do you like jungle better? Describe how it is different than DMT. Also have you ever tried jungle spice orally with a MAOI?
 
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Xylene evaporation takes time. Plus, the final residue will be alkaloids + oils + fats + rest crap. Maybe it would be better to salt the alkaloids out of the xylene using some acidified water (vinegar, citric acid, HCl, etc.), then evaporate the water to dryness (it'll be faster than evaporating xylene!) and freebase the alkaloids.

Alternatively, the acidic pull from the xylene can be reduced down to a small manageable volume, basified and pull with a small amount of fresh xylene.


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Here is a little tek i wrote that focuses on extracting spice using xylene as your solvent.
Its easy as pie - check it out.

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#10 Posted : 2/24/2010 10:55:14 PM

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joebono wrote:
Mad_Banshee, why do you like jungle better? Describe how it is different than DMT. Also have you ever tried jungle spice orally with a MAOI?


There is a bit more to this story. Swim got his first batch of root bark from vendor A and it was very powerful extracted with naptha and a breakthru nearly every time.
Then swim bought batch B from vendor 2 and had a hard time breaking thru with standard naptha extracted spice. He thought is was something he was doing wrong.
The Swim bought batch C from vendor 2 and still had a hard time breaking thru until he used some stuff he extracted with xylene....night and day difference....WAY more powerful.
Swim does a xylene pull or 2 and then re-crystalzes just once with some naptha which seems to leave still some of the alkaloids in the mix but makes for a much easier and an amazing smoking material.
All this said, this swim guy is still learning and maybe in the future batch 3 of powdered root bark will give different results for him.

Yes, Swim tried jungle with a maoi once and was floored. 160mg cappi copy and 60 mg jungle....OMG he was tripping balls for nearly 3 hours.
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