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NeitherHere
#1 Posted : 3/10/2023 10:49:28 PM

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So, in doing my first extraction I ran into a problem I'm sure many if not almost all newbies probably experienced while using a baster. While pulling that last little bit of nps from your vessel you may find that you've pulled some of the bade layer in with it. In working with acrb I realized that this base layer doesn't follow wxpected physics i.e. didn't fall and separate readily. What's an entity to do? Well after about 45 minutes of playing with this problem I decided to turn my baster almost completely solid. I mean think about it, the base is heavier and should stay in the lower level of the baster [on it's side that is) this essentially creates a make shift damn whereby the heavier base layer does not readily flow through the spout where the lighter dmt laden non polar solvent will.

I hope your following me here. But to make sure I explain it a little different.
If you're struggling with pulling base don't freak out. Put as little as possible obviously, turn your baster sideways above your receiving vessel and slowly/methodically express your nps into the receiving vessel.

I can hear it already:
But NeitherHere, I'm still getting base in my receiving vessel!aaah fret not, the solution here (pun intended) is to add a FRESH acidic solution. Of ph3 to your receiving vessel preferably this vessel is a sealable jar. Doing this does a few things for me personally.
A. IT neutralizes the base rendering it moderately safe(r) for handling.
B. It seems to clean the nps, a comment that will seem oppositional when you see your clear nps go translucent white.
C. It allows me to make progress using progressive stepping instead of fighting for immediate accuracy.

So now we have a vessel of dmt laden nps with a layer of acidic ~3ph. At this point I poured off the nps carefully into a crystallizing dish. I leave the last minute amount of nps left near the acidic solution and reintroduce it to my origin vessel with the root bark/base solution for further pulls. What is left is negligible and trying to fight for every drop means your ego is still fighting for control over everything. Just stop it. Leave it alone you can get it later. "What's the big fuckin deal anyways?"

Ao that's it. That's my solution to unscrewing a screwed up pull. It might be a little more work but it worked for me and spead up my pull times dramatically.

I wanted to post this in a/b but being a new member I can't.

Now for a side note. Say your impatient like I was and try to evap your nps on a hot bath for a sample but you get a drop of water on your plate. A little 99.9% use grade isopropyl alcohol in the dish on the same hot bath under a well vented area will help break that water onto evaporation. The material I was left with was oily which ironically worked amazing for me (check my post in first steps on hyper space). If you plan on making changa then this is pretty much a preliminary step to that path minus the heads and hamalines/mine.


Hope this helps someone out there I wish I would have read it somewhere. The acid wash idea came from earthwalker I believe in his back salting stage on the "100g acrb extraction" not sure from memory how closely my recommendation is to his I struction but without earthealker I would have been left a bumbling fool with a hot mess so big thank you to EarthWalker.

Hug your family, love everyone around you, and have a great day guise.
Maybe I'll post pictures later on.
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Toshido
#2 Posted : 3/11/2023 4:20:41 PM

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Nope. Nope. Nope.

Way too complicated.

Love this post though.

First of all. Throw out that baster and get yourself a proper bulb!



Even, so you'll prob still end up pulling in some of that basilicious soup, at which point you will have to carefully decant into dish after dish until you only have your dmt saturated solvent left.

OR, you could get a sep funnel. I pull straight to it.



You'll kind of notice that there will be some speckles of your basic solution on the edges of the sep funnel though.

Easy fix! A sodium carbonate wash! (Credit to Endlessness for teaching me this).

Make some sodium carbonate (or buy it). Super easy. Take 10mg and place it in 50mL distilled water and add to the sep funnel and swirl (minding to vent if your nps is superheated but it won't be since it cools as you do your pulls). And wallah! It washes away the base and it sinks to the bottom with the water.



Decant off the bottom layer and you're left with 100 percent high quality solvent with no base.



What's that? You love your turkey baster and you can't let it go? Well you can still utilize that sodium carbonate wash. Just take a 100mL beaker or whatever you wanna use, fill it with water, add 10mg sodium carbonate, and suck it up into the baster to clean out the base. Done.

Hope this helps that soup Bruh!
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NeitherHere
#3 Posted : 3/11/2023 5:30:21 PM

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Oh no, I fully intend to upgrade. I threw this up so hopefully it would help people like myself who foolishly went with the baster Razz I'll probably be transitioning to legitimate lab gear as soon as physically possible. My initial set up was just to test the waters. Didn't want to invest a lot to find out I didn't like hyperspace Big grin but I've come to realize just how much my mind wants to knock on the door again so yeah definetelΔΉ time to upgrade Smile

Thanks for showing off your kit widderick I just got the hardest face-palm when you mentioned a separators funnel, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay easier than playing the games I mentioned above.

At the moment I have 2 pulls sitting in the freezer it's been about 36 hours at sub zero Temps so hopefully we'll see how my work panned out. Last time I trying crystallizing I got a lot of freefloating powdered crystals I just couldn't wrap my head around how to safely extract from the nps with what I have on hand so I allowed the nps to get back to baseline room temp and retried the crystallizing in a larger dish.

Thanks for the patience and guidance. Elders know best usually Smile hope you have a great day.
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Toshido
#4 Posted : 3/11/2023 6:12:26 PM

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Dude I just learned extraction 3 months ago and have been obsessed with it more than actually smoking spice.

As for the powder crystals, they're just floating, it's fine. Strain through a coffee filter, collect those crystals, let dry for a long time as they will be saturated with solvent (save the strained nps and heat up to then re-cool and then freeze precip).

Check my hot plate tek in my signature. Shows my equipment list. I still have 15 extractions to go, messing with 1 variable at a time to get the best yield in the shortest amount of time.

Cheers!
🌳👨‍🔬🌳 - My A/B Hot Plate TEK - 🌳👨‍🔬🌳
🍜🍜🍜 - Don't Heat Your Naphtha, Heat Your Soup! - 🍜🍜🍜
✴✴✴ - White Spice vs Yellow Spice - 🌟🌟🌟
"You are an explorer, and you represent our species, and the greatest good you can do is to bring back a new idea, because our world is endangered by the absence of good ideas. Our world is in crisis because of the absence of consciousness." - Terence McKenna
🙌 "Dang, that's really impressive for a first extraction. Those xtals are nicely resolved." - Benzyme 🙌

 
 
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