I have limited experience with panaeolus cyanescens. I remember Bancopuma here posting about how he loved the trips. Who else has had trips with these? What was your trip like?

Found this interesting, collection of pan cyan trip reports: https://www.shroomery.or...flat.php/Number/28108398

Unfortunately I have zero experience with pan cyan but wanted to say thank you for posting this - it's a good push to try growing them. Interesting they recommend THH as well....

Thank you Artificer and DMT Lexus for comments and help.

I have not seen that mono tub grow for panaeolus ever before DMT Lexus, thanks so much for that. Just the way I would love to grow, I never knew there was a monotub tek for these. Much appreciated for the link.

Ah, the body load of shrooms, a damn curse it is. I've started using the amino acid Citrulline about an hour before and it has made a huge difference.

Thanks DMT Lexus for sharing that monotub Pan cyan grow guide - I'm definitely going to read up on this. Just shared these accounts (a fair few of them from Nexians) in the 'Panaeolus Cyans vs Psilocybe Cubensis' thread but I thought they would of interest to you entheogenplanet. Another Pan cyan account here on Reddit.


"They are the cleanest, smoothest, most peaceful mushroom vibe of all the species I have tried. Panaeolus cyanescens and tropicalis rank #1 in my book."

"They are far and above the cleanest clearest and most potent mushrooms I have ever encountered, tread lightly with these guys."

"SWIM has only consumed the Copelandia cyans (Hawaiian), and reputes them to be the best mushroom experience by far. Very clean trip, zero body load, clear head space."

"They [Pan cyans] are so much cleaner! The trip is shorter but more intense. The visuals are just incredible. You feel very light compared to cubensis and the headspace is more manageable (at least at lower doses).

"Most intense, euphoric, neon colorful trip that introduced me to pan cyan, most unlike any cubes I have ever had. Way preferred these over cubes. So deeply euphoric and extremely visual with saturated tropical neon colors. From then on I was hooked."

"I didn't really expect how good the differences were from Cube to [Pan cyan] estero. The visuals weren't comparable at all and the euphoria was so wonderful. My 2g trip was literally the best substance experience of my life next to marriage and kids. 10 hours of pure bliss."

"First experience last night with Estero pan cyan. Truly mystical, amazing, and the most beautiful and gentle psychedelic experience to date. Truly a gift."

"I strongly agree with starting with one-half gram dry. It was a much better experience than any cubes I've tried even at higher doses."

"Copelandia [Panaeolus] cyanescens are far stronger than cubes and have a distinctly different feel."

"Cubes gave me mild nausea and made me feel 'shakey'. Not at all so with Pan cyans."

"lol who needs cubes when you can have Cyanescens! I’ve blessed a few people with them and they are now believers lol."

"IMO they [Pan cyans] are a lot better than cubes. No body noise and very intense and clear. More like LSD just a lot shorter. I don't cultivate many actives on a regular basis anymore, but out off all I have experienced to date, these are my favorite."

"The highs real clean. It reminds me of the Felix the cat acid from the 80s. Just smooth. With little body noise and extreme visuals. A calm lucidity that is like a slice of heaven."

"Pan Cyan (and Trops) are very much worth the effort!!! I have never eaten any Cubes that were as VISUAL as these are. Not to mention a little goes a LONG ways. Gram and a half of these little fellers will blister your brain!"

"Less cartoony than cubes. More crisp neon geometric patterns. The trip also feels less tiring."

"Ok, so it's given that [Pan cyan] it's much stronger than cubensis. But I've noticed that there is a difference in the high. Why is that?"

"In my humble opinion, I think 1 gram of wet Panaeolus is even better than 1 gram of dry Cubensis, making them 10X more potent [?!?], in addition to the more positive and smooth experience, easier consumption due to amount and taste, and much less nausea."

"My first experience [with Pan cyans] was wonderful! I definitely noticed a big difference in potency and the mood of the trip. I still remember how clean, visual and surreal everything felt. I felt absolutely no body noise or anxiety. They felt very natural to experience, nothing felt wrong if that makes sense."

"I've eaten pan cyans around the 1g dose - to me it was like 3g of cubies in strength with a different quality to it."

"Pans are no joke. Anyone who says LSD is more powerful than mushrooms has never done pans."

"I also noticed that cyans have a very smooth comedown and longer duration. What could be the reason for this?"

"There's something about Pan Cyan that induces something special that no cube could ever bring, it isn't that it's a clean feeling either - it's something that must deal with happiness in general - so whether it stimulates serotonin production or a mixture of neurochemicals for the best experience, I have had consistently positive experiences with each trip both physiologically and psychologically. I wonder if it has to do with other alkaloids or absence of alkaloids vs cubensis."

"It is my personal view that Hawaiian Copelandia cyanescens offers the entheogen user a more enjoyable experience than the more easily cultivated Psilocybe cubensis. In fact I would place it in the premier cru of psychedelic plants, alongside the indigenous Liberty Cap (Psilocybe semilanceata) and the various DMT containing plants."

I may have already said something about it in that thread as well but i don't mind repeating myself if i did: of all the shrooms i know, these are by far my most favorite ones.

I live in the netherlands and shrooms used to be legal here and they where just being sold in smartshops. So i'm pretty lucky to have been able to try out a lot of different species.
And i've never had any strain of cubensis that came even close to these ones.

I have three absolute favorites: copelandia cyanescens, psilocybe azurescens and psilocybe semilanceata. Of these three, the copelandia is definately the cleanest, smoothest one.

These days however, there are some dutch companies that have specialised in growing sclerotia, and they have managed to create a couple of these magic truffles that are just as clean. Usually they have all kinds of fancy names though, so they often don't mention what species of sclerotium you're having.

But all of them are strains of these five species: tampanensis, galindoi, atlantis, mexicana or pajaritos.

Hey dragonrider,

Yeah I hear you, we're very much aligned when it comes to our favourite mushroom species. For some time while I was living in London, mushrooms (including both Cubensis and Pan cyan) were also legally available which is how I first got to experience them. A particular Pan cyan strain 'Estero' has recently come to my attention, apparently particularly potent and a tenacious culture, one I'm keen to grow at some point.

I'm interested to hear about your experience with sclerotia. Definitely a fair bit of marketing hype when it comes to the various sclerotia varieties, similar to Cubensis strains, and also confusion when it comes to species. According to genetic analyses, P. galindoi is a substrain variant of P. mexicana, and P. tampenensis is synonymous with P. atantis. 'Pajaritos' is synonymous with P. mexicana. Then there is P. hollandia - which again, isn't a distinct species by the sounds of it, and may simply be older and more mature sclerotia, which may harbour greater potency. Like mushrooms, sclerotia can vary widely in potency, but there may be a potency increase with age. I also found the P. mexicana strain 'Chicon Nindo' to be a good sclerotia producer. Out of curiosity, how do you consume your sclerotia? Once I consumed some dry sclerotia which was a silly move and wasn't a fun time on the stomach front.

Thankyou bancopuma, dragonrider and Lizking. I've read the link you give Bancopuma, very good thread indeed.

Well, i do usually just eat them. There are huge differences between them, both in quality and price. The best ones are very potent by weight, so you don't need to eat huge quantities of them.
Some are being sold in little vacuumbags while others are still alive and are sold in little boxes. Some of those vacuumpacked are not that bad, but i prefer the living ones. Those living and breathing ones also tend to taste a little better.
I believe they also sell dyed ones, but i didn't bother to try any of those because i don't realy see the point in making them pink, orange or blue and not mentioning what coloring agents where added.

I have noticed with shrooms as well as with truffles, that dried ones tend to cause less stomach issues. Sclerotia can easily be dried by slicing them in tiny bits and laying them on a newspaper for a couple of days. They can then be pulverised with a pestle and mortar.