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#1 Posted : 1/7/2010 3:18:28 AM

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SWIM is presently evapping 100ml naptha containing DXM as the free base.

Does anyone agree that the fumarate salt should be as effective as the citrate salt? since apparently 'Pure DXM (free base) can be consumed by dissolving it in a consumable acid first.'
http://www.drugs-forum.c...=45030#Ways_of_using_DXM

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#2 Posted : 1/7/2010 4:24:13 AM

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i dont know nor want to... thats bad stuff man soul sapping shit

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#3 Posted : 1/7/2010 4:35:53 AM

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lemon juice and pure citric acid are super easy to obtain and SWIM isn't sure why someone would waste semi-expensive fumaric acid on DXM... SWIM doesn't expect anyone would have this information.

SWIM has sworn it off due to high doses *wasting* more than 2 days. Plus low doses being non-trippy non-useful and way to toxic for frequent use.
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#4 Posted : 1/7/2010 5:05:37 AM

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psychosisdoses wrote:
i dont know nor want to... thats bad stuff man soul sapping shit

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i used to eat "triple c's" (coriciden cough&cold) like candy. seriously it was bad i was on those things 24/7... now when i take a psychedelic only my left pupil gets dilated and my right eye stays normal. my short term memory is pretty much shot. this may sound wierd but i can't even look at a dxm-containing product without getting terrible nausea and a type of heebie-jeebies i can only describe as the feeling i got when i had to drink cough medicine as a kid (even though i never abuse cough syrup only those damn pills).

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edit: these side effects were only noticed after the first time i took 20 pills (30mg each pill). my brother has the wierd pupil thing too but he would drink the syrup instead of eat pills
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#5 Posted : 1/7/2010 9:13:09 AM

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please could someone explain this one eye dialation thing - i have had a friend that had the same thing once - but he was tripping and his female otherhalf wasnt.
left brain/right brain thing ?
idk but in animals one pupil dialated means either major major shock, or brain damage.
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#6 Posted : 1/7/2010 3:17:26 PM

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mogascreeta wrote:
... now when i take a psychedelic only my left pupil gets dilated and my right eye stays normal.


SWIM's wife got that from LSD once as a next day after effect, but she was never into the whole robo thing.


@ Shoe, SWIM recommends simply dissolving the DXM in some grapefruit juice and sipping it slowly. If SWIY just took a bunch of purified DXM all at once, most of it would likely metabolize into DXO and result in a shitty, shitty experience. From SWIM's experience, building up DXM slow tends to result in a pleasant trickle of DXO into one's system while maintaining the desired DXM effects. SWIM hasn't done it in years, but this is the best way he found to do it.
 
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#7 Posted : 2/19/2010 5:20:38 PM

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Just a disclaimer, these aren't my pics and SWIM isn't attempting to claim credit for them, but here are a few DXM crystal shots.
shoe attached the following image(s):
dxm extraction1.jpg (136kb) downloaded 172 time(s).
dxm extraction 2.jpg (168kb) downloaded 174 time(s).
dxm extraction3 (from 8oz robotussin).jpg (221kb) downloaded 173 time(s).
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#8 Posted : 2/19/2010 5:34:58 PM

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Yikes. SWIM would have been a happy camper some years back.
 
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#9 Posted : 2/19/2010 11:35:27 PM

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It says from 8oz of robutussin but I used 4 bottles, dunno how many oz in a bottle, and there was next to nothing in the resulting naptha. Perhaps insufficient basing Sad
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#10 Posted : 2/19/2010 11:44:10 PM

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If used responsibly dissociatives can yield positive or recreational experiences. Many have bad memories from their irresponsible "teen" drug use years however if used occasionally the experience can be interesting and spiritually valuable. Also many are just curious to have had an experience of these substances, there is nothing wrong with that. Just don't make a habit out of it and you will be fine.
 
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#11 Posted : 2/19/2010 11:51:15 PM

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bufoman wrote:
If used responsibly dissociatives can yield positive or recreational experiences. Many have bad memories from their irresponsible "teen" drug use years however if used occasionally the experience can be interesting and spiritually valuable. Also many are just curious to have had an experience of these substances, there is nothing wrong with that. Just don't make a habit out of it and you will be fine.


Exactly. SWIM didn't even realize how problematic it can be for some until after he had been doing it for some time without any problems. Back in those days, he tended to treat it as sort of "rave drug."
 
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#12 Posted : 2/20/2010 12:35:01 AM

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bufoman wrote:
Also many are just curious to have had an experience of these substances, there is nothing wrong with that. Just don't make a habit out of it and you will be fine.


That'd be me.

So far, I've tried:

Marijuana, Salvia, Mushrooms, Sinichuichi, Calea Zatechitichi, LSD, MDMA, MDE, MDA, EVE, BZP, 2-CB, 2-Ci, 2-ce, DMT, 5-Meo-DIPT (Foxy) 5-Meo-MIPT (moxy), Mescaline, Amyls, Nitrous, Ketamine, Cocaine, Methylone, Mephedrone, and GBL. - and a few combinations thereof

JWH's were a possibility but since they're just synthetic cannibinoids its probably not worth it. I know about a few other things which might be worth trying, like 4-aminorex for example, but likewise, doesn't sound very interesting.

Im pleased to say the list is still growing Smile New designer synthetics are now a very real possibility, like thio-mescaline (the sulphur derivatives prepared by shuglin), DET and DIPT, because I just found out about another(!) chemist friend! Also, new NMDA agonists like tiletamine sound like they could have some experimental fun. Tiletamine however, is very expensive.

Im really interested to try DOC/ DOI. A friend of mine just found some recently! So that'll be tested a.s.a.p (phenylethylamine verisons of LSD.)
Also, I am very keen to test out some of the TMA's, Trimethoxy substituted amphetamines, since they will have a 2-Cx/Mescaline like character!!! (WIN)



So yeah! Once i've ticked everything off my list, especially in the range of "interesting" psychedelics such as ALD-52 and other lysergic acid analouges and derrivitives, substituted trpytamines like det, dpt and dipt, I shall kick my feet up and declair "wow, what interesting flavours of the mind." - my work here is done.

Smile
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