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The [redundant] use of SWIM Options
 
ghostman
#1 Posted : 2/16/2010 2:07:53 PM

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I am sure there has been a thread on this in the past. However, I'd like to raise it again if only to rant and vent.

SWIM! Is useless and redundant. Do you really think that if someone were to actually come knocking on your door, the fact that you have used SWIM instead of 'me' or 'I' on an interwebs forum, that it is going to make them go away?

If you must use SWIM you will find that once you have used it, from that point on you are allowed, by the grammatical rules of English to refer to that SWIM as he, she or it. This would be easier on the eye to read. You can also alter your writing style to include a minimal number of references to SWIM. I don't have a problem with this at all.

When I read a post and all that jumps out is SWIM, I see this

SWIMBlah blah SWIM Blah blah blah SWIM. SWIM blah SWIM blah Blah blah SWIM blah SWIM. Blah blah SWIM Blah blah SWIM Blah blah SWIM Blah blah SWIM.
SWIM Blah blah SWIM. SWIM Blah blah SWIM Blah blah Blah blah SWIM. SWIM SWIM SWIM SWIM.
AllSWIMandnoplaymakesSWIMadullboyAllSWIMandnoplaymakesSWIMadullboyAllSWIMandnoplaymakesSWIMadullboy
AllSWIMandnoplaymakesSWIMadullboy.

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#2 Posted : 2/16/2010 2:15:17 PM

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Hahahaha!!!

I personally love seeing people using the term SWIM all around the place! It is cult.




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#3 Posted : 2/16/2010 2:17:42 PM

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I am just waiting for some newbie user to come along and call himself SWIM Very happy

The law will come down on that poor bastitch like a Steinway and Sons hitting a Baked Alaska.
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#4 Posted : 2/16/2010 2:21:41 PM
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I don't know about other places, but in the USA, yes...it is very useful. If you say I or me its called self incriminating, as you have already admitted it was you doing illegal activity. Where using SWIM says someone else, not incriminating. Me and I is a confession.
They say that shit floats, but mine sinks....why?? I guess i'm just into some heavy shit!
 
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#5 Posted : 2/16/2010 2:27:46 PM

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Cheeto wrote:
I don't know about other places, but in the USA, yes...it is very useful. If you say I or me its called self incriminating, as you have already admitted it was you doing illegal activity. Where using SWIM says someone else, not incriminating. Me and I is a confession.


I doubt that.

This would be like someone using 1 instead of I. There is as much of a difference between 1 and I as there is between SWIM and I.

1 smoked some DMT today.

I think if the filth come knocking, SWIM won't stand in there way. I can understand being vague when talking about manufacturing something, but already having consumed something makes no difference.

Could you be arrested and charged if you went and stood in Times Square with a board around your neck that said

'yesterday I smoked pot'

?
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#6 Posted : 2/16/2010 2:31:49 PM

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SWIM is pretty unimaginative. I've taken to making up bizarre ficticious characters like 'The Amazing Human Mongoose' etc.
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#7 Posted : 2/16/2010 2:32:06 PM

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I AM SWIM!!! IT"S ME!!Shocked Shocked


Man am I glad to have that off my chest...


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#8 Posted : 2/16/2010 2:35:07 PM

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Its not perfect or foolproof by any means, but its a good idea in swims opinion =p heh
 
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#9 Posted : 2/16/2010 2:41:50 PM
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ghostman wrote:

Could you be arrested and charged if you went and stood in Times Square with a board around your neck that said

'yesterday I smoked pot'

?


It dosen't matter, the law is the law. If you had that sign...yes, you could be charged possibly. If you had the same sign with SWIM in place of I, then no, you have not incriminated yourself, as no where does it say you were the one who actually smoked an illegal substance. It would arouse suspicion though, they could test you to see if you had illegal substance in your body, they could get a search warrant to search your house, but you still have not incriminated yourself, so if all checks out fine your good to go.
They say that shit floats, but mine sinks....why?? I guess i'm just into some heavy shit!
 
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#10 Posted : 2/16/2010 2:41:51 PM

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What's redundant are threads like this. They pop up every few months and it's always the same rants with the same responses. Most get along just fine and understand what's being said without strain. Members should take care to use it correctly and not to overuse it, but it's an acronym that some find helpful and should be allowed to use without badgering.
 
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#11 Posted : 2/16/2010 2:49:52 PM

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amor_fati wrote:
What's redundant are threads like this. They pop up every few months and it's always the same rants with the same responses. Most get along just fine and understand what's being said without strain. Members should take care to use it correctly and not to overuse it, but it's an acronym that some find helpful and should be allowed to use without badgering.


Here is a good example.

http://dmt-nexus.me/foru...;t=10066&find=unread

if people want their posts read, then make them readable. I supposed asking people to use paragraphs would be considered badgering too?

I object to the derogatory use of the word badger, I like badgers.
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#12 Posted : 2/16/2010 2:59:08 PM
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Honestly, i thought of one other thing.

Even using I and Me on a forum is not a confession, because you could say that you lie about what you do to fit in and make friends. You would have to confess to a court room or person in law, like a police officer.

They say that shit floats, but mine sinks....why?? I guess i'm just into some heavy shit!
 
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#13 Posted : 2/16/2010 3:03:22 PM

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Cheeto wrote:
Honestly, i thought of one other thing.

Even using I and Me on a forum is not a confession, because you could say that you lie about what you do to fit in and make friends. You would have to confess to a court room or person in law, like a police officer.



Most people have the 'i am a compulsive liar...' as a disclaimer in their signatures, which technically constitutes redundancy. Smile
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#14 Posted : 2/16/2010 3:07:47 PM

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ghostman wrote:
Here is a good example.

http://dmt-nexus.me/foru...;t=10066&find=unread

if people want their posts read, then make them readable. I supposed asking people to use paragraphs would be considered badgering too?


And that merits a whole new thread that retreads this old worn-out path? Try not responding to such posts, perhaps. No offense to the OP of that thread, but most would likely never bother with such a post.

Cheeto wrote:
Even using I and Me on a forum is not a confession, because you could say that you lie about what you do to fit in and make friends. You would have to confess to a court room or person in law, like a police officer.


I'm pretty sure that if you gave someone a motrin and told them it was E, you could still wind up with drug charges. It matters very much what you say and write.
 
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#15 Posted : 2/16/2010 3:12:10 PM

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amor_fati wrote:
ghostman wrote:
Here is a good example.

http://dmt-nexus.me/foru...;t=10066&find=unread

if people want their posts read, then make them readable. I supposed asking people to use paragraphs would be considered badgering too?


And that merits a whole new thread that retreads this old worn-out path? Try not responding to such posts, perhaps. No offense to the OP of that thread, but most would likely never bother with such a post.


Which would be a shame. Better to try and point people in a direction that their voice may be heard as opposed to ignored, or not?

But you're right and I know it, I'm flogging a dead horse here.
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#16 Posted : 2/16/2010 3:26:27 PM

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ghostman wrote:
Which would be a shame. Better to try and point people in a direction that their voice may be heard as opposed to ignored, or not?


Going off and starting a thread that they can't respond to that mocks their posting style is hardly that. I contend it's better to look the other way and give them time and space to grow. In any case, your response to the thread could have been a bit more helpful by being a bit less biased in the matter.

For instance, an example of how he could have posted that would make it easier to read would go something like this:
Quote:
SWIM did it. Oh my God he did it for the first time and couldn't believe it.
 
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#17 Posted : 2/16/2010 3:46:03 PM

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amor_fati wrote:
ghostman wrote:
Which would be a shame. Better to try and point people in a direction that their voice may be heard as opposed to ignored, or not?


Going off and starting a thread that they can't respond to that mocks their posting style is hardly that. I contend it's better to look the other way and give them time and space to grow. In any case, your response to the thread could have been a bit more helpful by being a bit less biased in the matter.

For instance, an example of how he could have posted that would make it easier to read would go something like this:
Quote:
SWIM did it. Oh my God he did it for the first time and couldn't believe it.


You're right. SWIM has been a prick about it and apologises.
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#18 Posted : 2/16/2010 6:28:50 PM

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This has been spoken about many a times, there are many different views. this thread has loads of talk about this.

I think that maybe some new members are a bit hasty, and have not read through some sticky threads. heck some dont even read the attitude page. This forum is quit welcoming and a nice place to talk about the journey that we all go through, and when youve just experienced it, you want to get it out there.

SWIM doesnt really bug me, nor does SWIY and the rest of their family.

Posting etiquette we can all learn along the waySmile
 
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#19 Posted : 2/16/2010 9:27:13 PM

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ghostman wrote:
I am just waiting for some newbie user to come along and call himself SWIM Very happy

The law will come down on that poor bastitch like a Steinway and Sons hitting a Baked Alaska.

Laughing Laughing Hahahaha! Now that's some funny shizit! Laughing

I'm torn on the whole SWIM thing. SWIM ( Razz ) NEVER used to use it, but now that things are getting more in the public eye, he's been using it more.

I seriously doubt that this would hold up as any kind of legal defense however.

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It's just a way some people on forums like this talk and I think it's.... well nothing. I don't care. It's just a way people talk nothing more. So why get bothered over it. I have other things to do with my life than to be bothered if people here write SWIM or I.
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