I saw a few posts where people are using their Mighty vapes to smoke DMT, I own a MiniVap with a water piece like this one:


This was also my very first time smoking DMT in general, so I went with a dose of 35mg I extracted myself with the intention to just stop smoking if it was too much.

The MiniVap differs from the Mighty in that it only has preset settings, mine had 7 (older models only have 4). The only temps I used were: blue: 185, white: 196, and pink: 207 C.

Unfortunately I didn't take notes so this is off memory:

Started at 185C, the first few inhales nothing really happened, the only thing I noticed were my ears kind of felt "inflated" and body was kind of light/giddy.

After trying a few minutes, I upped the temp to 196C and things were working better, I was starting to get some feeling of euphoria, but it was still a little too slow. I also checked the cartridge and noticed there was a good amount of DMT in liquid form, so I assumed it might not have been hot enough.

Finally I pushed the temp to 207 and after a few inhales, I started seeing visuals mid-breath, it was really nice for probably 5 minutes and went away, I think after that I had depleted the 35 mg of DMT, all that was left was a tiny bit of brownish residue.

Afterwards, it probably only took 10-15 min to return to normal. The only thing I noticed was that my eyes felt more tired and dry, and my ears were a little weird like they wanted to pop on an airplane.


I plan on taking more, but wanted to get some understanding to better calibrate my next trip:

1. I used 35 mg, I see in most places this is considered a moderate dose. However, I'd consider my experience "light" since I only saw visuals for a few minutes and did not experience any other "realm" or entity. I understand there are many factors at play and my body might just need a higher dose. But one thing to consider, it probably took 15-20 min for me to actually inhale all the DMT, could this delay in time have caused some of the DMT I smoked earlier to have worn off already?

Next time I plan to use a higher temp from the start so I can inhale most in a shorter span of time, but I'm not sure if I should up the dose.

2. I'm not sure about the temperature. This thread states that 175 C may be optimal and not to go above 200, but for me and the MiniVap, below 200 was just too slow. Even at 207C, I didn't taste anything unpleasant, not sure if that was because the water pipe helped or not.

Like I mentioned earlier, I do plan on just starting at a higher temp next time anyway. I'm guessing it works because of the design of the MiniVap (convection/radiation) might just not create air that is actually that hot once it reaches the DMT. However, I'm not sure if the residue is a result of combustion or just impurities.

3. Lastly, I'm a little paranoid about leftover NPS on the DMT. I extracted with Naphtha and then re-ex with heptane. I used the freezer crystallization method and poured off excess and evaped the last of the heptane off. However I still can't help but worry some of the effects I felt might have been due to leftover solvents.

Do other people feel the ear pressure thing? As well as eyes feeling tired after the experience? Also if there was leftover solvent in the DMT, how would I know? Would smoking it be far more unpleasant? I hear residual lye would give you a headache.

Thanks for reading and hopefully this will be helpful for anyone with a MiniVap in the future

Thanks for sharing your experience. I bet if you had started with the 207°C setting you may well have gotten quite the surprise! Does your device have a setting between 196 and 207? Presumably you would have tried it if it did.

One thing I would suggest is, before jumping all the way up to 207 - which sounds like it does cause some scorching - experiment a little more with the 196 setting and try varying how hard you inhale. It may be that a slower inhale will promote a more smooth vaporisation - remember, as you inhale, air is drawn in which cools the device and the quicker you inhale, the more it cools and the cooler the device, the less DMT will evaporate.

If your device has a way of controlling the size of the air inlet, reducing the size of this aperture may prove to be advantageous. It's a straightforward means of controlling the rate of inhalation.

NB these tips are based on physics and experience with other devices; I have never used a minivap.

You probably needn't worry about the heptane residue - the amount you would be inhaling from 35mg of insufficiently dried material would be far less than the exposure to far worse substances that you would typically get by standing next to a highway or on a gas station forecourt. And it sounds like you did a reasonable job of letting the heptane evaporate off.

And if you want to ensure there's no lye residue in your final product (which there shouldn't be if you've recrystallised correctly as well) allow your pulls to rest in a pyrex glass jug in the fridge for a couple of hours before carefully decanting the naphtha into the final freeze precipitation vessel. You may see some watery droplets have collected at the bottom of the jug - that's where any traces of lye will be and they should stay happily stuck to the bottom of the jug. You don't want them in your freeze precip dish because even if they're only condensation they'll freeze and lead to confused questions about melting crystals and such (not naming any names...)

The largest part of the negative effects is coming from worrying about possible negative effects, which may cause you to focus on pre-existing conditions during your state of heightened awareness and suggestibility.

DON'T PANIC!

(Apologies if that cultural reference passes you by, look it up!)

Unfortunately not, but the info you shared about inhalation speed would probably help. I will do 196 and try a slower inhale next time. Or maybe 207 with a faster inhale. Unfortunately inhalation speed and temperature are the only things I can control.



Good point, I think similarly, the smell of rubber cement is technically heptane as well but we don't seem to worry too much when using them because the context and setting are so different.



Are those droplets actually water with lye? If so, how did the water get there? Is it just naturally a little but soluble in NPS and the fridge brings down the solubility?

I also found info about water/soda washes like this, it sounds pretty similar.

In both yours and the washing tek, do we not worry about losing much DMT to the wash since the DMT is still more partial to being dissolved in the NPS?


Yep good advice and luckily the paranoia didn't get the best of me during the experience.

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If there's lye in there, it won't be very much. A tiny amount of water will be dissolved in the NPS as though it were a vapour dispersed throughout some other kind of container. One way of viewing it is that the saturated vapour pressure of water in naphtha is very low.

The main culprit for lye transfer for those careless with extraction is in the form of purple droplets of base soup (which also count as watery, I suppose). The resting phase will also allow for very small droplets of base soup to settle out should they have become dispersed in the NPS, as well as catching any that might have been accidentally sucked up by pipette or whatever.

If the base soup was shaken vigourously with the NPS, there's a higher chance that invisibly tiny droplets of base soup will have passed into the NPS. This is another of the things the soda wash is perhaps intended to clear up more quickly than a resting phase might.

That's a good link, although it details an actual washing process you can use once you've obtained crystals so it's even more useful to you at this stage now that you'd like to bolster your confidence about the crystals that you already have - so give it a try and well done for finding it!

The freebase DMT will largely remain in the NPS. Numerical quantification of how much stays in the NPS and how much passes into the aqueous phase would be determined with a figure called the partition coefficient, which is generally given the symbol 'logP'.

But I'm not planning to get into any calculations today

Hope you've got enough ideas to apply to your further explorations from all this. We've got a depressed android on the other end of the line who seems to be washing his head at us.