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G7
#1 Posted : 2/14/2010 2:03:07 AM

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MAPS was given the green light to study the effect of 3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine on PTSD in veterans.
The DHHS and FDA gave the ok; good move or wrong direction? Your thoughts?

http://www.maps.org/mdma..._proceed_ltr_12_1_10.pdf

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#2 Posted : 2/14/2010 4:29:38 AM

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G7 wrote:
...good move or wrong direction? Your thoughts?




I can't think of any reason this would be a bad thing. I can only see it opening up opportunities for other studies.

Hopefully it shows therapeutic value for PTSD.
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#3 Posted : 2/14/2010 8:45:57 AM

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Awesome! If they are allowing illegal drugs to be tested for therapeutic purposes I believe our spice will one day pass with flying colors! Anyone able to fund their next project Pleased
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#4 Posted : 2/15/2010 5:07:42 PM

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Kisper wrote:
G7 wrote:
...good move or wrong direction? Your thoughts?




I can't think of any reason this would be a bad thing. I can only see it opening up opportunities for other studies.

Hopefully it shows therapeutic value for PTSD.


Only because govnt regulation sucks. prescription mdma isnt all bad but it would be the way they regulate it. Imagine if spice was only available via a script.
Not saying it is bad at all, i personally think this is freaking great. but the feds always figure out a way to jack a good thing up.

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-"Your love for each other should exceed your need for each other"
-"Nostalgia isn't what it used to be"
-"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil
to one who is striking at the root"
-"We figured out a long time ago that it's much easier to control people when we're all watching the same T.V. shows, listening to the same radio stations, going to the same movies, looking at the same billboards, eating the same food, and speaking the same language."

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#5 Posted : 2/15/2010 6:31:45 PM

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Imagine if spice was only available via a script.


I can't. It's circulating endogenously, being synthed by the lungs, and formulating in the tips of grasses.



 
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#6 Posted : 2/15/2010 7:29:52 PM

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this is good, people who need their medicine will be able to get it. This is the first step to decriminalization, or at least better attitudes towards these substances.

this is particularly good cuz it'll start drawing more attention to the fact that the entire Riccaurte study was gov't sponsored lies and used meth and other BS to create the results they got.

and ultimately, this doesn't matter. It does in many senses, but at the same time, this is just another study out of like 10 that are being done internationally. The results will come back favorably and we'll figure out how to proceed from there. The truth about all of these substances will be heard, the only thing that remains to be seen is when and by how many. These studies main benefit, imo, will be to make the truth available to more people much sooner.
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G7
#7 Posted : 2/15/2010 9:01:18 PM

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Amen brother, my sentiments exactly. There have been plenty of these studies, but Rick certainly helped open many doors as well as eyes that were closed prior. I believe there is another study on psilocybin mushrooms @ John Hopkins University (don't quote me though) on its psychological benefits. Good stuff.

Oh and I am sure we all are aware the nature of endogenous spice, and its availability. Moreover I was referring to the regulations involved if it were legalized and under prescription guidelines only, which i truly doubt will happen in my lifetime, fingers crossed though. Many people are too lazy to extract, or just don't have the ability, physical or mental, to undertake it. Also, if it were similar to opiate pain killers, it would still be illegal to extract and possess (think poppies). Which of course begs the age old question are we breaking the law when our bodies releases the compound. Which is why i brought about this thread to begin with. Decriminalizing it is great, but these substances will still be out of most of our legal grasps still.
So until they want to lift this ridiculous prohibition off E, Spice, Psilocybin, Cannabis and the myriad of other useful, safe, and effective plants and compounds the we have coexisted with for millenia, I will be weary of any govnt regulations of them and view the laws as merely a means of having "thier hands in the cookie jar". Regulation and making money are the 2 things governments are all about.

Hence, "imagine if it were only available (legally) by script?"
Haha. Puts a new meaning to Pharmahuasca, huh? Pleased
It would still suck. Consider me a purest.


-G7
-"I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a statement."
-"Your love for each other should exceed your need for each other"
-"Nostalgia isn't what it used to be"
-"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil
to one who is striking at the root"
-"We figured out a long time ago that it's much easier to control people when we're all watching the same T.V. shows, listening to the same radio stations, going to the same movies, looking at the same billboards, eating the same food, and speaking the same language."

Everything I post is butkus.
 
 
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