Sexy Changa:

75% Caapi leaves
25% Rose buds, Chamomile, and Mexican Tarragon

Mix 1:1 with mysterious blood red goo. <3

do the rose buds have any actives?

I'm sure SOMETHING makes its way across the BBB. Doubtfully psychedelic, but even just smelling essential oil of rose, or putting it into a massage oil, has calming and mildly euphoric properties. Also, possibly aphrodisiac?

Rose petals are awesome to smoke. Chamomile is soothing, too.

The smell of this particular blend is incredible!

I originally picked up the Mexican Tarragon, because it works wonders in cutting the taste of Calea Zacatechichi...

Sounds delicious minxx.

A question, guys. How does it sounds to make 2:1 changa (2 spice:1 changa)?

Effective?

sounds like it will be strong

so you think it'll work?
I mean, I know leaves hasn't got a real saturation point, but would like 1 gr. spice fit in 500 mg mint leaves?

Is so, would be a really nice info for a non-smoker as me =)

Instead of the leaf absorbing the DMT it will become too saturated and simply stick to the outside as well, so you'll have DMT coated leaf. Works fine, obviously very strong.

I'm making my first changa mix I have 4 g of freebase, I plan on making two different mixes. I have blue lotus petals, lions tail, and calea on the way. I couldnt find caapi leaves anywhere, but I do have some vine.

Is it possible to replace caapi leaves with vine? Is the smoke more harsh? Is there less of an effect? I had planned on 50%DMT 25%lotus 25%Lions tail and 50%DMT 25%lotus 25%calea, but after reading about all the wonderful caapi experiences, i dont want to leave it out.

I also plan on using heptane to soak the leaves, because its all i have and it evaps so quickly. But im worried it might evap a little too quickly. Ive heard its better for a longer soak, but physically speaking, that doesnt really make any sense to me. However, if that is the case, would diluting the heptane with a little water harm the mix in any way?

Yes you can use the vine instead of the leaf, just grind/chop it up to smoking consistency. No real niticible difference other than the vine tasting a bit woody. Other than that all is good.

And yes, heptane is fine to use, and no dont dilute the heptane with water, no need for that.

Make a little tester first with the caapi vine and one other herb to see if you like the effects and taste, say like 200-300mg herb.

Vine is much more efficent in this purpose than leaves, though it is more harsh to smoke you will need much less. Easily <50% compared to leaves, but you need to shred it quite finely for optimal results. Don't grind it.



Heptane doesn't contain as much DMT/ml as say acetone or IPA, so that may be a pain as the great thing about say... acetone, is that you can concerntrate the DMT saturated solvent to the same size and space as your herb mix.

Vine is much more efficent in this purpose than leaves, though it is more harsh to smoke you will need much less. Easily <50% compared to leaves, but you need to shred it quite finely for optimal results. Don't grind it.


So what would be a good mix? Would 10%vine 20%lotus 20%lions tail 50%DMT have enough caapi to take effect?

Depends what you call a good mix. First of all it's been found that you don't need much caapi for it to have an effect. However I say "some effect" doesn't necassarily mean enough .

When it comes to changa I'm a bit of a caapi purest. I don't think any of the other herbs will have much of a worthwhile effect. It can get to a stage when you can mix in so many herbs that some of them become pointless. Think of the tiny amount of DMT you have to smoke to go a long way. But although it's a small amount you have to get it in all pretty quick in order for it to have the desired effect, so the mix can't get to herb heavy and I highly recommend DMT:HERB 1:1. So say at that ratio a 40mg dose of DMT will be accompanied by that same weight in herbs. So if you're mixing herbs up as they are, the amounts are going to be so small that it's barely worthwhile.

So in order to not have to compromise on what you want in the mix I'd probably suggest extracting from caapi and adding those alkaloids to another herb you know you enjoy smoking and call that all your herb weight, then infuse it all together with DMT and call that your mix.

I personally think you can't get enough vine in the mix. All I use really is DMT: caapi leaf 1:1 and I have a smaller quanitity of pau d'arco DMT 1:1 but it's no way near as powerful as the caapi. I may in the future experiment by adding a few tropane alkaloids to the mix, but as I've said for me the bottom line is much much caapi

8 gr of changa is a lot. I would not use all your spice for doing this, unless you anticipate going to the furthest reaches of hyperspace for a very, very long time.

Make 1g (.5g spice, .25g lots, .25g calea)of the Calea/Lotus mix
Make 1g Vine + whichever leaf

Make a 1:1 smoke and even then be sure to scrape whatever receptacle you are makinjg your blend in. DMT sticks to the sides, big time.

You may want to consider using the Vine to make a tea, which you then drink 30 minutes before you journey, OR soak your vine in IPA or Acetone for a week and then use that IPA or Acetone to infuse the Spice into your herbs.

Either way, report back young Skywalker :-)

My best blends are

1:1 70/30 Caapi Leaf/Chaliponga (Ayahusca Android)
1:1 50/50 Blue Lotus/Calea (Electric Sheep)
1:1 Pau d'Arco

For the Pau d'Arco, I mixed 300mg 10:1 White Vine extract into a 1:1 1g spice/1g Pau d'Arco. This in no uncertain terms blew me away.

In Praise of Changa - Pau d'Arco
In Praise of Changa - Electric Sheep

I just got the vine and I do plan on making the tea and then smoking a normal dose of freebase. I have another 2 grams of crystalized DMT that I dont plan on turning into changa. I dont plan on switching to changa completely because i really enjoy the experience of straight spice, eventhough I typically cant remember much.


I have smoked changa a few times and i was wholly unimpressed, but it wasnt my DMT and it wasnt my leaf. I dont even know what was in the mix. So im very excited to make it myself.


How much vine would i have to soak in how much acetone for a 2 g mix? Is soaking the vine for a week virtually the same process as extracting the alkaloids? If not, how would i go about doing that?

BGTM236, this might help with your infusing.


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hope that helps a bit, if you have anymore questions just ask

would Acetone work for soaking the Caapi for a few days?
all I can find around my town is 91 percent alcohol.

also I am working with the leaves to soak and Ant advised to soak about 50 grams.

http://changaya.blogspot...echnology-of-sacred.html
new site...

whoooah......in mah faaace.


edit: I've read all but the bio-assay. I especially like the 'Technology of the Sacred' page.

I wanted to point out a few typos I found.

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"This was due to a ban on the importation of harmala continuing plants both alive or dried into Australia. Harmala contianing plants thus being illegal provided an interesting challenge to Austrilians, who found in their travels to South America ayahuasca."

"A recommended site however is the DMT nexus. A very innovative group of serious devotees to entheogens. A great source of DYI info and explanations."

"Just hoping onto a forum and asking the guy who can dominate the conversation with his spin on things is not enough. Learn and study and really figure out what your doing."

"Bioassys of Note"

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May of missed some, but spotted those.

A very nice site! Thank you!

wow!! awesome!