Good Day everyone,

To Me: I took 8 years many Drugs (weed,lsd,shrooms,ayahuasca and some chems) but im Now 6 Years Clean.

I Quit Smoking Tobacco 5 weeks ago.
And my Anger and irritability get stronger... so i decided to make nearly everyday Sport... my Body is thankful of that

But i took yesterday again Iboga in Microdose ( i have experience with microdose)
It helped me in Past against Depression.
I Took 20-150mg at night, because in the day time i dont like the "feeling".

Even in these small doses of 50mg upwards, I have more frequent headaches the next morning for 2-5 hours and am more irritable than usual.

I blame this on the detoxifying effect and don't know what could help. but from 6pm in the evening, I am like a changed person, cheerful, humorous and positive like I haven't been in ages.

people have tried to make me believe that it is impossible, if i take less than 300mg root bark, that i can have any effect at all. that is impossible! xDD

And this from a very famous iboga advocate.... well, so others can be wrong too!

I signed up here because I have a request and nowhere to find.
Instead of always taking the capsules at night, I would like to switch to a drop preparation.

Only I lack accurate knowledge...

Is it possible to make a concentrate of which I would need only a few drops, for the same effect as from 50-100mg root bark?

Maybe by simply dissolving 1-2g TA extract in 10-20ml alcohol? or otherwise in DMSO?

Well these topics occupy me at the moment very...

Otherwise, I am interested in DMT for years (never tested it), but find it very interesting.

Experiences I have among other things also made with 1 cp Lsd and can only say that I can not stand the side effects of really penetrating intense headaches, and therefore my attempts with it have ended.

I will be happy to get to know some of you a little better in the future!

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hmhm pity that so far no one but myself has answered.

Well now, I'm testing myself just to a small Iboga extraction attempt and have mixed 8g with vinegar and it must still pull a few days.

Then I can squeeze it the first time and wash 2 times with fresh vinegar.

When that is done, I will fill the whole thing with ammonia, let it brew for 8 hours and filter it. and the half finished dry TA I will then wash it again with double distilled water and dry it, then I will have a nice pure ta extract.

The following extract I will dissolve in 96% alcohol and henceforth diluted with water before going to sleep testing

And if everything goes well (I'm satisfied with the strength and the whole process) I will do the same extraction again with a larger amount, possibly with photos or a video.

Besides, I am also very interested in Peganum Harmala and an extract (preferably a tincture).

I could not find any "simple" extract possibility so far.... I would have thought e.g. 100g harmal in pure alcohol infuse 4 weeks, filter and ready, but I find unfortunately nowhere something.

I can buy online from a pharmacy but also directly ready tincture (with alcohol).

Well, first I have to further inform how then the exact Mao diet has to look like. since I am unfortunately Chronic coffee much drinker (Missing the coffee a few days, I'm like comatose, only in bed with a miserable headache, since then no aspirin helps more.


I hope here in this specialized forum one day a full member to be allowed!

Love greetings

Hey aiil, welcome

Interesting experiments, best of luck and let us know how it goes!
How did you come up with this extraction procedure? Did you find it somewhere?

I have no experience with iboga, so i'm afraid i can't really help.

As for rue extraction, i have done it several times, and it can be pretty simple:
- simmer whole seeds in acidic water, strain tea into collection vessel, repeat 3-4x with fresh acidic water
- let the tea stand for 12h+. Slowly pour it through a coffee filter, so as not to disturb the sediment (which will clog the filter)
- prepare a solution of sodium hydroxide, add it to the filtered tea. It should turn milky. If the milkyness goes away quickly, add more of the alkaline solution.
- let the freebase settle in the bottom for some hours, decant or siphon off most of the liquid without losing any freebase, pour the rest through a coffee filter to collect the solid freebase. Neutralise the liquid with citric acid or vinegar and discard it.
- if you want to keep it as freebase, thoroughly wash it with water several times (until the wash water stays below pH of maybe 8 ).
- if you want to make HCl, do a Manske as described eg. here

Harmala freebase isn't very soluble in anything, but maybe enough to make an alcohol tincture. A bit of heat really helps to dissolve them completely in alcohol.
Harmala HCl is very soluble in water, idk about alcohols, maybe them too.

Yes I have grazed the Internet for various Iboga TA Teks and was found several times among other things also here at Dmt Nexus (Even with pictures partly )

Iboga has helped me before great in microdose only I always get so side effects and had read that can come partly from the wood content or so, so I wanted to test times the TA extract.

Also because Ta extract is very expensive ... 1g about 90€ , but for 90€ I get also about 35g root bark , and if the bark contains 3-6% ibogaine, I should get 1 - 2.1g TA (If I save myself the last step with washing, then it will be more) but prefer as little contamination as possible

A few questions came to my mind about your answer:

Sodium hydroxide solution I don't have, can I replace it with ammonia 25%? Both are alkaline...
According to google: " An exceptional alkaline solution is that of ammonia in water. Ammonia (NH3) is not a hydroxide compound, to be sure. However, it can react with water to form hydroxide ions and ammonium ions. So, strictly speaking, ammonia water is an ammonium hydroxide solution."

And I don't understand this:
"pour off or aspirate most of the liquid without losing freebase, pour the rest through a coffee filter to collect the solid freebase. Neutralize the liquid with citric acid or vinegar and discard."

Why should I neutralize the liquid before dumping it away?

Kind regards

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Yes ammonia works well.

It's ideal to neutralise strong acidic or alkaline stuff before discarding it, because the drain leads to the environment eventually

Hi aiil, nice to see a fellow ASD person here. I'm new here as well and still learning a lot. Just wanted to say hello and hope you are able to find concrete answers here. I don't have any experience with iboga, so I can't comment on that. But I have been using small doses of DMT with great results. Taking it slow and wading into the process and very happy with the results so far. Good luck and enjoy. There are a lot of great minds here.

Peace,

fourcrows

Much love man, welcome! I'm an aspie myself, this realm of subject tends to draw in our kind

Hahaha Thanks yes i think too

Your vintage is 93? if yes then we also have that in common too





Photo Upload of my Iboga Ta Extract in wet state

My iboga Ta extract drying in the oven at 45-55 degree celsius

dry chopped ta powder

So here you see my very first Iboga extract.

I have 8g root bark simply mixed with vinegar and soak 4-5 days in the glass and then pressed through a piece of boiled cotton undershirt. Then I soaked it again in vinegar for 2 days, filtered it again and soaked it for another 1.5 days and collected the whole vinegar decoction and put it in a glass cup.

I have then filled with proper ammonia solution 25%, waited about 6-7 hours and then filtered it with mask on, a funnel and filter paper. I did not take a coffee filter but lab filter paper, which worked great! The funnel I have filled with the vinegar ammonia mixture from the jar 3-4x, and then one last time with double distilled water, which then took 1 day (from morning to late evening).

The mud that remained in the filter, I have in the express process carefully with a hair dryer slightly dried and then put in the oven for 1-2? hours with the door slightly open at just under 50 degrees Celsius. then I scraped it off and ground in my coffee grinder.

So now I have a "harvest" of 8 grams Iboga Rootbark of about 1.3g Ta extract. However, it still smells like vinegar and ammonia (I don't like that at all).

Therefore, I will fill the powder again in the funnel with filter paper and make another 1-3x neatly full with double distilled water.

I hope I come then from the 1.3g Ta on 600-800mg Pure Ta.

And even then I am not finished yet...

I'm doing microdosing exclusively, so I'll dissolve the powder in 5-10ml of 96% ethanol, so I'll have highly effective drops then, because my goal was that 1 drop equals about 50mg of Root Bark. (That would be about 1-3mg ibogaine) and with e.g. 800mg TA extract (with about 50% purity) that would be 400mg ibogaine by 10 = 40mg per ml .

And 1 ml is equal to 20 drops estimated, makes = 2mg ibogaine per drop, goal achieved Hooray

Haha, sure am man. And excellent extraction methodology! Curious about the addition of ammonia though. Isn't alcohol and water enough on their own to do a proper full TA extraction? I'm admittedly much less learned with iboga than other plant medicines with only a few experiences under my belt, and i haven't dared facilitate for someone else yet with it.

so i scoured the internet for extraction instructions and i couldn't find any tek that worked exclusively or primarily with alcohol. for iboga, acid/base extraction was always recommended and instead of ammonia i could have used natronsoda.

and if you want to have it much purer, you can still work with hydrochloric acid and acetone, but for smallest quantities and for my purposes (and knowledge ) I found that unnecessary.