2-ci found in nature is there? i wouldn't think so, but just in case....

No. Iodine is not normally incorporated into these types of molecules. The only place where that may happen is in the oceans.

That would be most lovely. 2C-I has been a great ally for me at times.

yeah, there IS some type of psychedelic stimulant in the root of some plant, right? i was reading about this from some drug synthesizing page. Synthesis of lsd or ald or mescaline or dmt or some shit. The guy said if you don't want to go through all the trouble to just grow some plant that had some strong psychedelic stimulant in the roots.

oh well, in the ocean you say? 2-ci has iodine incorporated in it then? damn, i didn't know that, learned something new.

heh yep, hence the 'i'


ephedra has ephedrine in it, IDk if that's the stimulant you're thinking of or not....not psychedelic though.
cactus has mescaline..


I can't think of any other psychedelic phens that occur naturally off the top of my head though I'm sure tehre are some..

I have a vague recollection that methamphetamine has been discovered as a trace component of some plant, don't remember the name or have a reference though. There has been talk of some cactus or other nearly producing MDMA, or theoretically having that potential; again, it's very vague in my mind...

Yea I'm pretty sure I've heard the same thing bout meth. being found in a plant

look up psychedelic stimulant and roots and you'll probably find it, it's more of a phenethylamine, but it happens to be somewhat like 2-ci or 2-cb, having psychedelic and stimulant qualities. the guy that gave the synthesis technique, i believe invented it, if i remember correctly, so i know it wasn't lsd, as that would be albert hoffman, it must've been mescaline or dmt or ald or some shit(i think ald was unalledgedly invented by some type of brothers or some or another that were arrested and put in jail, and the flow of ald stopped or something, i don't remember but it probably wasn't ald either). Anyhow i don't know which one it was.

i'll make another post regarding ald and a type of mushroom containing auriginascin, an trimethylammonium analogue of psilocybin.

i'll just repost it so people don't think i'm going off topic.

great replies, thanks a lot

remember DMT was synthetisized before its was discovered chemically in nature. simple reason. its easy to make.

i looked it up, i believe it's the calamus root. i forget what it contains

Calamus doesn't contain phenethylamines; it contains asarone, an allylbenzene precursor to one of the TMAs... Did you have a point?

somehow i got on that subject from the subject of a natural stimulant like psychedelic. Is calamus any good?

beta-asarone is a carcinogen. it is found in a. calamus. i wouldnt waste time with it.

I think the closest phenethylamine you are gonna find in nature is mescaline found in a number of cacti. I don't know of any other nature-made phenethylamines that are active (and someone please correct me if I am wrong).

ephedrine, cathinone, dopamine, adrenaline are all naturally occurring phenethylamines. phenethylamine itself is a naturally occurring phenethylamine.

well, that definately doesn't sound worth it.

Ah thank you.

However none of those mentioned are psycadellic. Phenethylamine itself is not even active. There are a ton of phen's in the cactus that are not active, so I kinda was just speaking of active phenethylamines. I was unaware that ephedrine, cathinone, dopamine, adrenaline were phens. I know so little chemistry/pharmacology.

Squid extractions?

yes phenethylamine is not psychoactive but it is a neurotransmitter and active in that way. you are totally right some alkaloids in the cactus are not all active in humans (although some make you sick so in that way they are, they deter many from eating it). however they may be active against insects or some other mammal that might try to eat it.

i must correct myself beta-asarone has not been found in american variety but in the indian variety. still would be careful tho...