Welcome, Glorb. Was any heat used at all? SWIM's mescaline acetate has been quite finicky in the past, but it was likely due to heat used for evaporation. SWIM once broke through on 500mg but has even exceeded that dose to very little effect on every other occasion. The only other possible explanation SWIM can think of for such troubles would be the use of capsules hindering proper absorption, as can be the case with pharmahuasca. SWIM can't really speculate on the color change, though.

Thank you for replying Amor SWIM had the vinegar sitting slightly out of the oven in a ceramic baking dish and the temp was set to minimum (50C) with the fan running. The Resin was dissolved in hot coffee and administered orally. Is it possible to evap the vinegar using vacuum-distillation? SWIM has read many post's about the possible yield reduction due to heat but it also seems generally accepted that keeping the heat under 155F shouldn't pose any threat. Can SWIY remember what cactus was used for said breakthrough? Swim still needs to experiment with bridgsii and torch, and also with purification and patience

Peace Amor

SWIM's only ever extracted from torch. Vacuum distillation may be a bit much, but give it a try if SWIY has the means. SWIM evaps with a food dehydrator, which he considers the ideal method. His dehydrator has a temperature knob, and most of his evaporations were done around 150F and didn't turn out so great. He believes that much of the evap for the one he did break through with done in room temp. Unfortunately, his notes on the matter are rather sloppy.

SWIM's on hiatus from cactus for the season, but when the time comes, he'll be starting with HCl to get a feel for it, then he will work his way back into experimenting with the carbonate form as a nontoxic, odorless alternative.

Earlier today I made my jar of mhrb solution, shook it, and it's been sitting all day. It seems to be forming a foam on top however, and I don't want to add my naphtha until it's gone. Is there any way I can get rid of it?

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...eparate.2C_what_to_do.3F

hope it helps

a little foam at the top is just air bubbles..they usually go away after i add the solvent

2 quick questions:

1. If one is using using lime, limonene, and FASW: after the first pull, when SWIM puts all of his bark back into his container to prepare for the second pull, should he add some more lime or is that unnecessary?

2. If one is lazy, and has FASW with the fumerate product captured after separating from limonene, is it possible to just leave the beaker open for a couple of days? As in, will this process eventually yield the fumerate and excess fumaric acid? (is heating to 175F or so via oven/dehydrator necessary?)

Do more pulls with naptha.

So i used loads of naptha on an stb. So much that it wont freeze precipitate and too much to evaporate off. I done 5 pulls using 1ml pergram of bark.. 250g so 5 x 250ml = 1250ml!!!!
I have been given an idea tho to help with my situation.
Here it is:

Make up some acidic water. (5% acetic acid vinigar has a ph of 2.4.. perfect)
Add the combined naptha pulls from my stb.
Shake the shit for a good ten minutes.
Settle.
Decant off the naptha.
RE basify the water. (how much lye?)
Add a layer of fresh hot naptha (not too much maybe 200ml?)
Decant off the naptha and freeze precip.

This method should help as i cant really evaporate a liter of naptha. I got the idea from Spiceman. I think it should be called a Kansas city shuffle.
Im going to try it in a couple of days when i can a$$ord to go and buy some acetic acid.

SWIM is in the first stage of a rather unconventional extraction and they wanted some help. they boiled some ground MHRB with some water for maybe a minute (in hindsight this is very stupid) maybe more, then let the water sit for a day, read some more, then added apple cider vinegar lemon juice and tabasco (wasn't sure on this then SWIM was like welllll vinegar-good, peppers-good, salt-they got NaOH on there so why not NaCl?) and let it sit for another night then added some more vinegar (the first batch of acids were all that were available at the time) for about 3 hrs... then decided to jump to the poor man's tek and added sodium carbonate (ah bad idea added it really fast an the whole pot bubbled over!!!) then put on the stove reread poor man's tek which said to add oil or solvent BEFORE heating so SWIM waslike dang and added some d-limolene cleaner (is this bad it says its got "natural cleaning agents" in it from coconuts, also essential oils those are the only 2 other ingredients) now letting it all sit in the crock pot there is a shitload of water.... next step i was thinking would be getting the amount of water to diminish by slow crock pot cookin, then i was thinking get the limolene off the top with dropper then heat water and limolene again, separate, again, separate, then put limo and ammonia together in same bottle, let sit, then evaporate that and i have crystals???????
please have me mercy on me, a foolish beginner, who had to repeat high school chemistry twice,, who is still unclear if i need to go and get a funnel, who is boorishly blundering thru a divine and deeply intentional process, hope i diddn't drop the ball yet?

Seriously, it sounds more like you are making fajitas than spice. You have not read enough and selected a tek to follow, Garbage In, Garbage Out.

It sounds like it's back to the drawing board for you.

This and also learn how to separate a block of text into paragraphs!

aw really? what is the importance of the order i am very curious swim right now has a mixture of mhrb water sodium carbonate vinegar citric acid d-limolene and it still looks fairly magical iswimo is this really an unsalvageable wreck? honestly tho i would like to know how the end of the process works anyway so i can keeep learn thru experience...even if my final product totally suckx...so (this ones for you russian guy---paragrapaph break!)
swIm had this magical watery basey acidey solventy solution on the crock pot and they wanted to know what the next step is in reducing the magic water to a magic crystal... is it simply a combination of separating the limo from the top and putting that in some ammonia? what happens to the ammonia?

What is the minimum temperature needed for the dmt not solving in the naphta anymore? My freezer goes only to -6... Colder is more dmt crystalization?

beakon you are hardly making any sense.. it really seems like you did not understand the process of what you are talking about.. For example, you say that amongst the things in the mix, there is sodium carbonate and citric acid... well, one is a base, the other is an acid, so depending on how much of each the pH of your solution will be different.. if pH is high, the alkaloids will be soluble in limonene.. if pH is low, they WONT be soluble in limonene. So the fact you didnt understand this yet, which is like THE basic chemical aspect of extractions, shows you have not read enough. Separating and putting the limo in some ammonia, where did you get that from?! go to the nexus wiki and read some teks again to get a hang on whats going on..

JOrrit, it depends.. The more saturated the naphtha is, the less reduction in temperature will be needed for alkaloids to start precipitating.. So make small and hot naphtha pulls (dont heat with any open fire!! warm water bath instead), and after sticking in the freezer, some alks should crash, but probably there will still be some in the naphtha, so just reuse that naphtha for more pulls, and after you've done 5+ pulls, evap the naphtha till the end to retrieve any remaining dmt that didnt crash from it.

Thanks for your quick reply!!! How can I see that there are really dmt crystals in it? I see a couple of floating crystals but when I try to take them off and put them on a plate or something they will immediately melt again. When I wait there will be nu powder or crystals what so ever. So that's make me think that that are just water crystals ( ice )? I'm putting it in half an hour in a freezer that's approximately -20 degrees celcius instead of - 6 degrees celcius, hope that'll work....

you have to wait way longer than half an hour.. more like, 12-24 hours.. the crystals should be quite obvious, and usually stuck to the sides/bottom of the container (which should be closed so water doesnt get in while its inside the freezer).

after those 12-24 hours, remove the container from freezer, quickly pour the naphtha out (through a coffee filter just in case there are any floating crystals, and remember to keep/reuse this naphtha), and put the lid back on the container, and put it upside down into the freezer for another couple of hours. This will make sure remaining naphtha trapped in the crystals will drop off to the lid. So the after those couple of hours you take out the cntainer, open it letting the remaining drops on the lid fall off, and scrape the crystals, putting them on a plate or on top of a coffee filter to finish air drying

good luck

Hello friends,
I started an extraction last night using about 600g of MHRB, 1 lb of lye, and about 3/5 of a gallon of water in a water jug. After dissolving the lye I added the MHRB and it seemed very thick and viscous. I added about 400 ml of naphtha and agitated for a while and tried to separate the lye and naphtha, but my naphtha is dark dark red like MHRB lye water. Am I fucked? I think I used too much MHRB

I have mimosa powder,not shreeded.
Is it possible to skip the boling with acid and go straight to the point where i use caustic soda with water and leave it over night before using hetpane?
Thx and peace!

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