Agreed. Sums it up for me. He used to be *soo* cool when he was younger. I idolized him. And he's been in so big movies. My theory about why he's gone lame is that he hasn't been in any big movies lately and he needs the attention, but that's not even it. Because now he wins lead actor.

My new theory is scientology. He and his wife are big supporters. They have brainwashed him into the cult and propped up his ego in who knows how many ways. He's not doing well mentally because of it. Doesn't mean I have sympathy for him.

The oscars are way overrated. Like so many of these awards. It has very little to do with artistic values.

I don't know the motives for why some artists get an award and others don't.
I suspect that commercial interests play a role, maybe the personal interests of some of the people who make out these juries as well.

But if it's not actually about the quality of the movies awarded anyway, it has little relevance. Even culturally, i think.
Will the movies that people still be watching and talking about 10 or 20 years from now, also be the movies that get the most awards? I don't know.

I know that hollywood is snuffed at a lot these days, but they do make good movies there occasionally.

I don't actually think that's true, although it would possibly explain some things. They deny it, for what it's worth, and most Scientologists (celebs especially) are loud and proud about their affiliation.

Living where I do, I cross paths with Scientologists from time to time. It's a brutally toxic scam of epic fucking proportions, and I've seen the fallout firsthand from acquaintances who've taken the bait.




Commercial interests play a role in everything. I'd say most of the films and people involved who were nominated last night were pretty much deserving of the honor. It's subjective of course, and yes, the Oscars (and Grammys, most notably) can be embarrassingly out of touch, but that may also be because all of these governing bodies are made up mostly of old-as-shit white men.

I wonder how you have the self awareness to say things like this yet not enough to realize these same judgements apply to how you rule the forum with a fascist "I'll punch you in the face to prove I'm stronger than you" mentality.

You seem to have forgotten...



I'm also not sure it's accurate to state that he "rules" the forum. That's patently false. The behaviors you're attempting to describe are in a minimal number of threads, and mainly those that are his.

Also, it should be noted, Bill hasn't ever gotten physically violent in the forum... Will Smith wad violent publicly.

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I really don't have a lot to add to this discussion; honestly I couldn't care much less. But at this point, maybe Mike Tyson is a better celebrity promoter of psychedelic integration than Will Smith:
https://news.yahoo.com/mike-didn...ch-pulled-113000689.html

Seems like a pretty potent matrix snare

I'll just call bullshit and ask you not to interact with me in future.

A) You don't have a clue what the word Fascism means. Look it up, and stop appropriating it for moronic means.

B) Never once said anything like that to anyone on this forum. Well, no I take that back. Once, actually, when someone here was trying to make the argument that some women enjoy sexual assault provided their assaulter is a powerful man - him I offered to smack in the face. But that's a bit different than actually cold cocking someone on live TV, now isn't it. 1) It was theoretical, as this was someone I'd never seen who lived on the other side of the world. 2) He most definitely has it coming if he pulls that shit offline. Somebody's gonna smack him eventually, and with extremely good reason.

C) How in the hell you've come to the conclusion that I "rule the forum" is beyond me. I was asked to moderate long ago, along with a team of others. I come here now mainly to share my art and the occasional opinion on whatever's going on around the world. When I see dipshits sharing misinformation or propaganda, giving medical advice they have no business giving, posting deeply offensive horseshit about sexual assault or whining about the persecution of the white man in today's society, I step in and drop the hammer - as is the job of a forum moderator. Otherwise what you get is 8chan. I'm here to take out the garbage.

D) So, to recap: 1) Buy a dictionary. 2) There's a difference between saying and doing. 3) Just a moderator. Get it straight. 4) There may be moments in life when physical violence is warranted. This Will Smith incident, in my opinion, just wasn't one of them. That's what we were actually discussing. And 5) If you don't like ANYTHING I have to say, just don't interact with me. Don't respond to my posts. Don't try and bait me. Because if you do you wont get smacked; you just won't ever log on here again.

If you seriously believe that you, or some other person, has been done wrong by one of the moderators in the way you describe, i think you should contact the traveller.

But i should warn you that trav does not have much patience with bullshitters, so if you would decide to do this you better have a serious case.

Hey look, the celeb world set us the example of conflict and we followed 😁

If it was some guy that slapped someone down at the bar no one would give it more than a passing glance. I am ashamed to say that i watched slapgate more than a couple of times. I feel soiled by my recent celebrity voyeurism.
If it wasn't staged then Chris Rock took the slap very well. Oscars viewing was at an all time low last year and not much better this year. Reckon they'll do ok next year. The salad days are coming back for sure. It's just a shame that we find conflict and bad news so much more watchable and readable than things like fluffy bunnies. I wonder why that is...

They would if the evening's telecast from the bar were the most watched TV event on the planet.

It just struck me, honestly, because it was so utterly norm busting. You just don't expect to see a dude in his 50's losing control so monumentally in such a public venue.

Which still gives me a little suspicion that it was staged. One minute he's laughing at the joke, get's a dirty look off of the wife and then storms up and gives a rather theatrical slap, with an almost instant comeback off of Rock. How can you be laughing at a joke one minute and then hit someone for telling it seconds later? It all seems a bit to instantaneous for me. But yeah, maybe he is a man baby that thinks he can do what he wants from minute to minute as the mood takes him.

Try living in Clearwater, they've ruined the city and turned into a weird M. Knight Shyamalan ghost cult town.

Just some perspective of about just how far we've come...

Thank you for that horrific historical tidbit.

I remember that she was there in Marlon Brando’s place (to decline his award) when he won it for The Godfather, but I didn’t know that other stuff. That’s just beyond awful.

That’s Amerikkka for ya.

Couldn't be less bothered by the whole thing. The cynic in me is tempted to assume it was an empty grab at a fading spotlight and nothing else.

And I also couldn't care less if the production team was white, black, or bloody purple with green spots. The show still sucks becauses it's still a bunch of insufferable millionaires huffing their own farts. That's why the viewership has only been declining for years.

Yeah, I'm not going to say that you're wrong about the insufferable nature of it all. It's a fart sniffing bonanza. And in a way that's exactly what made it such a shocking moment. It was just such dramatic upending of accepted social norms, and in a setting designed specifically to bludgeon the world with its fanciness.

It's weird to me that the situation has occupied as much space in the national consciousness (as well as my own) as it has the last two days, but there's probably a sad commentary there about American life, as well as my own susceptibility to tabloid drama.

I'll just leave it with this: Kareem's take on the whole affair. He says it much better than I can.

https://kareem.substack....did-a-bad-bad-thing?s=r

When in doubt, be like Kareem. He is, was, and will always be The Man.

I think that maybe in america the slap had more of an impact than in other parts of the world.

Here in europe, with something happening nextdoor that could potentially escalate into a WW3, i believe it seems of relatively little significance to most people.

But i think it is quite normal and healthy even, to be shocked or offended by something like this. I mean, you have seen the guy on TV before and in various movies as well probably, so somewhere in your brain he is registered as a familiar face, someone you know.

Oh...that was supposed to be funny? This is just like clapping at Will Smith. "I'm a crazy father" as if being crazy and EVIL is something to be proud about.

Contrary to what Bill says, words aren't much different from actions in that actions are born of mental states and people show their mental states in everything they say AND do. "Bill will be let loose on the offender" is the acknowledgment that Bill behaves like an animal and that the only reason he isn't abusing his power more is cause he hasn't been 'let loose.' That's why he turns down the title of ruler; instead of banning people at one comment he has to wait for two and in his warped morality that makes him 'fair'.

As for why he states his job is "to let down the hammer" but then says "I'm just a mod"...Did someone write wolf in sheep's clothing?

Bills type love contradictions. Also hierarchies, which is why his profile pic is the occult pyramid since they're symbols of hierarchies. Also its a simple form to grasp which is why ocultists turn to it. He probably loves black and white tile patterns too.

Bill turns any possible conversation into a 'I'll smack you' dick meassuring competition, but since he's on the web he reasons 'but all I can do is ban you.' All intelectual discussipn is to be stomped down, not to mention any unkind opinion towards him, all he can handle is flattery and empowerment and anyone who doesn't glorify him should fucking die in his book.

Look man, we're open to criticism. But this is not what "grown-ups having a discussion and being fair and reasonable" looks like.

It definately looks like a week suspension though.

I suggest you, like i said before, either contact the traveller after that week, with a concrete example of wrongdoing by bill, or just avoid interacting with him from now on.