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Tachyona
#1 Posted : 11/12/2021 2:05:58 AM
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My friend Dimitri will be in town very soon... we will be hanging a little while after he arrives when its the right time.

I know there are several methods such as vape, sandwich method (bong), other device (ie. HAMR), various pipes...

So basically, I want to use a clean "meth pipe" the ones with the bulbs I just got one and also a small cheap torch lighter but it's not the best.

I want to get a sick breakthrough(s) so will this be fine?








Also, other than the sandwich method and I don't have a bong rn would have to buy one, the only other method I can really do safely in this house and most discrete would be the meth pipe.

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#2 Posted : 11/12/2021 2:24:33 AM
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Also, would a larger, more powerful torch get the job and big hits done better?
 
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#3 Posted : 11/12/2021 2:34:08 AM

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Hey There,

So, when I used to use that kind of pipe, I used a torch lighter for cigars.

That device will do fine, and as long as your lighter is a torch lighter it should also be sufficient.

The real factor here is method and technique. When using that pipe, I never let the flame touch the glass, and rolled the pipe end slightly between my fingers back and forth to cover more surface area with melting DMT (just before it begins evaporating). It's real easy to burn it.

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#4 Posted : 11/12/2021 3:27:13 AM

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You want a sitter to hold the pipe for you because if you breakthrough with that you will burn yourself when you drop the pipe. I refuse to use external heat for that reason.
 
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#5 Posted : 11/12/2021 3:29:45 AM
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OK I'm doing it without a sitter tho cause I want to do it in privacy when nobody's home I'm sure it'll be fine.
 
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#6 Posted : 11/12/2021 5:24:48 AM
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Also would you recommend a scale (was just going to eyeball and keep hitting till hopefully breakthrough).

And any methods recommend for the future? Keep in mind the situation, being discrete, nothing huge, etc.

Also, I'd prefer not to spend too much.

And yes that is a torch lighter. $3 one lol
 
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#7 Posted : 11/12/2021 9:17:56 AM

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A normal pipe with the spice sandwiched will probably work much better. With a pipe like you are planning on using you need to get the technique down to a tee. As Void mentioned spice burns easily and the chances of you breaking through on your first or even second try with that is slim in my opinion. This stuff comes on fast and hard and sometimes by my 2nd toke I forget what the pipe in my hand is even for. I can't imagine having to struggle with a crack pipe and torch lighter trying to break through. Good luck, let us know how it went Smile

EDIT: If it's one of those torch lighters that can lock on with the flame constant don't do that because you will burn yourself badly or light your house on fire.
 
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#8 Posted : 11/12/2021 12:06:27 PM

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Tachyona wrote:
Also would you recommend a scale (was just going to eyeball and keep hitting till hopefully breakthrough).

And any methods recommend for the future? Keep in mind the situation, being discrete, nothing huge, etc.

Also, I'd prefer not to spend too much.

And yes that is a torch lighter. $3 one lol


Yes a milligram scale (20 bucks on Amazon).

This lil gem with a mod won't fail you.

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#9 Posted : 11/12/2021 3:56:34 PM
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Should be meeting Dimitri today, or at least he'll be nearby.

The thing with the sandwich method is I don't keep a bong, because
anyone in the house that finds it will make a big deal about having
One and also the smell and it's hard to hide. Keep this in mind.

Also I live with family and will try to find a time when nobody is home or
Asleep or something. The problem with that is imagine if someone walked in
Somehow I'd rather have a small pipe than a big bong.

I googled like 100 meth pipe reviews eroded, reddit, Google, etc. And also
Someone I know experienced... I've heard a lot of breakthroughs and good things
But also quite a few negatives but it seems like it should work...

Otherwise my other option is to get a bong and some chronic but the problem
Listed above...

I hope I'll have enough for quite a few experiences I only have 1.0 GRAhaM
 
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#10 Posted : 11/12/2021 4:18:55 PM

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Pipe is fine, just get a fireproof mat and put it down quick. I started by smoking out of a jam jar with a hole in the bottom... I would never want to go back but it did work.

Dude, 1 gram is more than enough. Just be sure you know what you're getting into.
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#11 Posted : 11/12/2021 4:23:31 PM

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Yeah, at 30mg doses you'd have a lil over 30 potential breakthrough journeys.

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#12 Posted : 11/12/2021 4:38:05 PM

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A pipe like a cannabis pipe is what I meant, doesn't have to be a bong. A pipe like that could fit in a pocket. Start really small and work your way up from there. Best of luck and happy traveling.
 
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#13 Posted : 11/12/2021 5:21:47 PM
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I know what I'm in for and trust myself.

So as for the scale... the best I can find is at a headshop within busing distance...

Most of them are 0.1 scales but they have a few 0.01s, that should be fine and worth getting right
Cause I'm a little low on $ and I can get this immediate as opposed to online waiting.

There's a 50g 0.01 (10mg) pocket one for $30CAD plus tax
And also a 200g 0.01 pocket one but bigger sized for $37 pt

I'm thinking that 200 should work right and is worth buying? All the mini ones I wanted are sold out.
 
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#14 Posted : 11/12/2021 5:26:40 PM

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Those will be very inaccurate for your purposes. You'll be weighing down to the milligram, so 0.001 is what you're looking for.

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#15 Posted : 11/12/2021 5:45:12 PM
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The best they have is 2mg and it's 95+$

The one I was going to get is 39 after tax it's to 10mg
So I could just guess like 30 40 50 60 whatever I wanted
Altho you're totally right tbh but also need that extra money

Otherwise I gotta order online whatever
 
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#16 Posted : 11/12/2021 6:11:51 PM

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We already had a chat in the Welcome Room of the live chat, but I'll post it here for other people's reference as well.

Even though I don't have much experience with DMT at all, I know a lot of people that do, and there's one distinguished aspect of the journey they all agree on - you need to respect the molecule.

Some people have been hyperslapped and have lost their marbles because of it. Can be an incredibly traumatic experience that I would avoid at all costs. I'm not saying you will get hyperslapped. All I'm saying is that if you currently don't have the space and faculties to work with the molecule effectively, the best advice I can give is to not rush it and instead wait until you are ready and have the space to do it properly. Respect the substance, regardless of how long you have worked with it (or other substances) and "been fine". There's always a first time for getting your ass handed to you during an eyeballed journey with an intensity level way beyond what you expected.

Furthermore, it seems like no two DMT experiences are alike, even at the same dosage. Some people have reported having barely any effect on a specific dosage on one occasion and having a full breakthrough, "blow the lid off" type of experience on another occasion, with the exact same dosage and physical state.

Get a decent mg scale and work respectfully with the spice. Set a proper mindset, and establish a safe space for yourself into which you can journey. You can never be too respectful towards an experience so profound.

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#17 Posted : 11/12/2021 6:17:17 PM

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Check out this thread on the advantages of weighing doses.

That 10mg one may be sufficient.

I'd also like to piggyback what was so well said by Nydex. The molecule always has something new to show you and could care less about how experienced you think you are.

It doesn't always happen, but enough for me to mention; I'll sometimes breakthrough on 15mg Shocked

Be safe, good luck, and let us know how it all goes.

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#18 Posted : 11/12/2021 6:30:50 PM

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Voidmatrix wrote:
Check out this thread on the advantages of weighing doses.

That 10mg one may be sufficient.

I'd also like to piggyback what was so well said by Nydex. The molecule always has something new to show you and could care less about how experienced you think you are.

It doesn't always happen, but enough for me to mention; I'll sometimes breakthrough on 15mg Shocked

Be safe, good luck, and let us know how it all goes.

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Thank you for the kind words, brother! Indeed DMT doesn't seem to care a single bit about one's experience or bravery. It's always ready to disintegrate and obliterate any and all defenses one might have risen up from their own sense of themselves.

And indeed breakthroughs are possible with tiny doses. I remember someone here was saying a while back how they can breakthrough with as little as 12mg, vaporizing it from an e-mesh type of vape pen with controlled temperature.

If one needs to go above 35-40mg to breakthrough, then it's almost certain that their vaporization technique is not ideal.

Cheers! Thumbs up
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#19 Posted : 11/12/2021 6:35:12 PM

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Nydex wrote:
Thank you for the kind words, brother! Indeed DMT doesn't seem to care a single bit about one's experience or bravery. It's always ready to disintegrate and obliterate any and all defenses one might have risen up from their own sense of themselves.

And indeed breakthroughs are possible with tiny doses. I remember someone here was saying a while back how they can breakthrough with as little as 12mg, vaporizing it from an e-mesh type of vape pen with controlled temperature.

If one needs to go above 35-40mg to breakthrough, then it's almost certain that their vaporization technique is not ideal.

Cheers!


Yup! Inflated egos get eviscerated in this realm of things.

The last line of my invocation is, "trusting myself and the entheogen with confidence and gratitude, I allow myself this experience and now surrender."

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#20 Posted : 11/12/2021 6:45:13 PM

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Voidmatrix wrote:

Yup! Inflated egos get eviscerated in this realm of things.

The last line of my invocation is, "trusting myself and the entheogen with confidence and gratitude, I allow myself this experience and now surrender."

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That invocation is beautiful! Love Do I have your permission to have it in my signature? Pretty please? Rolling eyes
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