Hey guys

I'm not even 100% back from the journey I was just on but I had to come ask because this basically was a disgusting journey and I have never had anything close to this before.

As you all know it's difficult to put what you see into words and I'll try to give as much info as possible.

Usually I see lots of really vivid bright colors but this journey almost took on the same type of brown of the sides of this forum, that's still cool but in the brown color the whole trip revolved around the profile of two humanoid type creatures. They appeared very human compared to the other entities I have encountered. I'll keep language clean here but the correct word starts with an F, anyway. All they did was lustful intercourse, not nice love making but lustful and had a feeling of disgust along with it. The one entity had a massive chode and forced it onto the other entity, it was rough, disgusting intercourse.

I'm not sure if this is saying something about my psyche but it wasn't a nice journey at all. I felt like throwing the rest of the spice away afterwards. I haven't had a nice journey on this batch of spice. I did buy this batch and was charged a big amount for it and I know how people on the Nexus feels about buying spice and I wonder if this may play a part in it. I really need to look harder into making my own but the info out there on local plants with the alkaloid I am looking for is lackluster and importing MHRB or something similar brings the costs way up, maybe it's worth it but if this is what I get from bought spice I don't want it.

I never expected to see such disgusting porn scenes from spice, I'm not into stuff like that and it was a bit disturbing.

Has anyone else ever had something similar. I can understand seeing alien like entities having sex or something along those lines but not the way I saw it now. I'm not even that horny really for it to merge into the trip.

This was the 3rd journey from this batch of spice and none of them have been really amazing, On the previous two occasions I saw entities resembling asian women with their hair in buns on the side of their heads, can't remember what they did the first time but on the second time they broke some cylindrical object and were frantic to fix it.

I'm sorry you had such an uncomfortable journey.

Sounds like it may have been the spice trying to challenge you a little bit. Potentially confronting you with things you struggle with. Did the entities seem to be enjoying themselves? Do you feel lust is always a bad thing?

I have had my share of sexual experiences in hyperspace, but I am usually a player in those contexts.

I definitely had some uncomfortable visions on mushrooms a couple days ago (example: children having their eyes gouged). I find it important to approach these instances with mindful indifference, suspending judgement (and even if it seems to be a product of our own minds, not making it mean anything about myself).

Some people seem to feel that certain aspects of the extractor permeates the spice they create. Under that idea, I wonder if maybe this person may have poor character and moral constitution. That's really just speculation though.

Definitely try to get to extracting on your own. The molecule will probably be more special to you that way and come with more fulfilling journeys for you.

One love

That's an interesting perspective. Thanks Void. You are really insightful.

I don't see much wrong with lust, I think it was more about the way those entities went about it. I passed judgment way too quick onto them though and maybe judged myself in the process. I usually handle difficult trips really well, not sure why this one got to me so easily.

I think I was caught off guard by it, not that you can be prepared for any of it. I've got some introspection to do.

Thank you for the insightful answer.

Maybe some form of succubi? They appear to me every once in a while on stronger trips. The less you pay attention to them, the less you attract them. They may taunt you if you reject them, but last time I just blew some air and sent them away when I decided I'm not interested in their show. I see the point of these visions is that you get to encounter your inner demons quite literally and then you can learn to deal with them.

There are all kinds of things in the hyperspace that try to divert your attention from the real valuable things. Learning to handle yourself and keep the focus is the lesson I believe.

Thank you very much. I just want to help if I can in any way.

So, how are you feeling now? Any insights you've retrieved?



Couldn't agree more. As well as many other things, this is always a benefit that I aim for in journeying.

One love

It was a little disturbing as I never expected to see anything like that during any journey but I'm good now.

I think a good lesson I took from there is not to judge so quickly and to stay more of an observer during my journeys. Lately I have been trying to control the trip instead of just going with what is being given to me, I was aiming for a very specific type of journey and never really got it if you go in that way.

I got some spice a while ago from someone that sometimes use me as a guinea pig to tell them if it's up to my standards since they know I love it so much. The one batch I got from them wasn't up to what I would expect and it just chilled in my cupboard for a long time. We had a public holiday yesterday and I got the urge to try it out again but to cut it up finer and put a big amount in my bong to see what happens. That was a mistake. I took one really big hit of the bong changa and felt the familiar ringing in my ears and thought to myself, this is a bit stronger than usual. Before I could even think about taking a second hit I was gone, it came on so fast I somehow forgot I just smoalked changa. Some stuff came flying past my vision and it felt like everything turned into polystyrene with the texture of sand. I thought something got into my lungs and poisoned me. I stood for a while trying to clear my throat and started freaking out a bit something is now seriously wrong with me. My duvet has flowers on it and it looked like something was shooting pieces of my rolled up duvet past me from a t-shirt cannon. I would try to touch my duvet and my arm just merges into it as if it wasn't there. I saw my bag I usually take to work and it looked completely different that what it normally does, it felt like that bag was laughing at me like someone was pranking me and I slapped it off the stand it was on. Everything in my room looked so different.

While freaking out a bit I walked to my window and called for help, I realized my neighbors weren't home and tried to make my way outside to see if I can get help. When walking into my living room I saw my pc screen and shoes on the ground and they looked like something out of a futuristic cyber punk world. The idea came into my head I am actually being pranked and someone somehow managed to switch out everything I know for stuff that was similar but looked completely different.

I walked back into my room and the t-shirt cannon stuff came flying around me again which I assumed was what was poisoning me and walked back to my living room, while walking to my living room I looked at my hand and as soon as I saw my hand I realized what was going on. I like to look at my hands when I trip and they take on a certain appearance on spice. Only then could I relax and went to lay down on my couch and for probably the next 15 minutes all I could say was holy sh*t and laughed a little bit about what just happened. It was really freaky while it was happening but as soon as I realized what was going on I relaxed.

Another valuable lesson there was to never underestimate Dimitri and to have respect for this powerful substance, even if you think the batch is kind of bunk.

Had my ass handed to me there. Just wanted to share that as-well. Also decided to chill with it for a little bit because I was kind of over doing it and it lost a little of that wow factor.

DMT gives you sometimes lessons that feel uncomfortably powerful. As time has passed from some of the stronger experiences I have become to appreciate that. Stronger the emotion, the faster you learn and learn to respect, which is essential in using this tool in a constructive way.

Good luck on your travels, Tegridy!

I learnt a few lessons this weekend

One funny thing is the experience I had with the bong felt very familiar, thinking back on it and almost while it was happening, I thought I knew about this or have experienced it before. Like I have had the same exact experience before or I saw it in a previous trip almost like predicting the future. A little bit like dejavu. Think it's more a part of the experience but it got me trying to remember something that maybe never even happened.

Thanks for the help and advice guys. This really is a great community.

EDIT: Been looking more seriously into making my own and I think Phalaris is the way to go. I've seen many plants around that might be Phalaris so that makes me happy. Think I'll have a better chance with them than any acacia tree around

I have this feeling very often when shooting for higher dimensions. It feels familiar, yet so foreign from your everyday experiences.

I believe that the feeling of familiarity might come from our dreams. I sometimes have dmt-like experiences in dreams like entity encounters. Also, when having mid-range DMT experiences (usually orally DMT), my consciousness seems to be partially open both to this everyday world and thinking and the dream world. While it's usually difficult to grasp any particular dreams or dream figures the feeling is there and maybe some faint imagery.

It may be that the entities live with us and inside us, side by side with our everyday personality and consciousness. Usually we don't get to meet each other, but on occasion we do. At first these encounters may seem scary, but with more experience, it becomes a natural part of reality, as astounding as it is.

There is enormous power in being able to access these usually concealed parts of the psyche but it's also very demanding. I think there is a reason why in old shamanistic cultures there were people who specialized in this and others just tipped their tongue.

I believe with good and solid intentions (while not too rigid) and humility, these worlds provide the best they contain. Confusion and restless in mind often brings about illusions and helplessness in the hyperspace experience.

I can't say I've had any experience in regards to entities doing such a thing but the way you describe the texture and color on your trip being brown like reminded me of one I did have. Like yours the main colors of my trip had been colors of brown and general dark colors and finding outlines to objects being difficult to spot. I felt as though I was at an airport and on a conveyer belt moving through it. Always wondered why that trip had no bright colors. I wasn't scared at all, quite calm.