Hi everyone,

I'm a male in his 30's coming from a background trying a variety of drugs.

The past five years or so I've been keeping to every 5-6 weeks meeting with old friends to have a bender.

I had never tried DMT before and did so for the first time alone last weekend using a electronic vape (crafty+) which I've now learned is not optimal but gave me a taste of what a wonderful experience DMT can be.

Here is the thing though.

I have not smoked weed on my own since 2011.

So tonight I thought I'd try that out with the smallest nugget you can find in this world. I was looking for a very mild buzz.

So I put less than a pinch of weed in the vape and smoke it at 165c.

I think I took maybe 8-10 hits cause I barely could feel anything in my throat or lungs.

And about the last hit I suddenly got hit by a very DMT-ish feeling, sort of heavy head. And lo and behold, I had the same visuals you'd get at around 15mg of spice. I was suddenly tripping. I went around talking loudly for myself in the apartment (actually having a really good time) with vague visuals for around 20 minutes or so before it fully went away. Full body control.

What the hell just happened? I've been googling like mad but find nothing. I stumbled upon "Changa" which is a new concept to me. Can you somehow create "changa" by accidetenly having residue somewhere in your vape and smoking it with the tinieist bit of weed? It's the only far out theory I've got, and I barely know what Changa is! Let alone ever tried it.

Any help to understand what happened here is appreciated...

Changa is a smokeable combination of herbs infused with DMT and harmala alkaloids. You won't have made this by accident with some weed in a vape.

Cannabis can be pretty psychedelic. It's possible the DMT has sensitized you to this headspace. There are threads about both of these phenomena in the forum.

If you re-used the crafty+ there's a high [sic] likelihood that there was an appreciable residue of DMT left over in the device.

Are you taking any MAOIs?



I am in agreement about the cannabis. Part of me wonders if you got some DMT residue, and the experience seemed to last longer due to your not being high in a while and in turn, the cannabis was a psychedelic experience for you too.



DF0 made a funny.

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Cannabis has been steadily increasing in potency for the last 20 years. Some strains can produce buds with upwards of 30% THC. If you haven't smoked in a long time, this can indeed be very psychedelc. I smoke every couple weeks, and if I took 8-10 hits of weed I would be very much tripping. It only takes 1 or 2 for me to achieve a psychedelic visionary headspace.

Also a certain sensitivity to psychedelic headspace is generated by smoking DMT that does not happen with other psychedelics, or at least not to the extent it does post-DMT. As DFZ (DF0?) said there are multiple threads about this phenomenon exist here.

I think these things combined with the possibility (a very real possibility) of unused residue left in your device which delivered a dose is responsible for what happened.

The first couple of times I smoalked harmalas, I was quite convinced that a small dose had nearly the same visionary power of dmt. To my great disappointment, I eventually consumed all of the residual deposited dmt vapors from that piece, and realized what had happened. It didn’t take much. There was nothing visible, just condensation from a couple of small doses of dmt. After that, I worked the piece over pretty well with a torch lighter and ingested all that remained.

Just adding to others who’ve mentioned that maybe it’s possible something akin to this happened. And yeah, the new weed is just nuts. I miss my outdoor grown Ozark Gold dad weed.