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nadir
#1 Posted : 2/1/2010 4:45:39 PM

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hey guys,
in the place where swim lives(EU), government just banned Banisteriopsis Caapi (according to 1961 UN drug policy)
so Banisteriopsis Caapi became schedule I (as well ass Kratom, Sally D, Ipomea Violacea and Argyreia NervosaSmile)
However, harmine and harmaline (as well as mitragynine and salvinorin A) has been put to schedule II.
my question is whether THH is an ester or ether of harmine/harmaline ?

EDIT:
what about dmt n-oxide? it isn't salt, but perhaps it could be dmt ether or ester?
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#2 Posted : 2/1/2010 6:23:01 PM

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nadir wrote:
hey guys,
in the place where swim lives(EU), government just banned Banisteriopsis Caapi (according to 1961 UN drug policy)
so Banisteriopsis Caapi became schedule I (as well ass Kratom, Sally D, Ipomea Violacea and Argyreia NervosaSmile)
However, harmine and harmaline (as well as mitragynine and salvinorin A) has been put to schedule II.

Bloody hell!!! which EU country that is?

nadir wrote:
my question is whether THH is an ester or ether of harmine/harmaline

They're not - THH is a reduction product of harmine and harmaline. Harmine + 2 hydrogens makes harmaline, harmine + 4 hydrogens makes THH, harmaline + 2 hydrogens makes THH.

Strictly speaking they're different compounds so they may not be considered as "analogues" (in the eyes of the law, not a chemist that is)

nadir wrote:
what about dmt n-oxide? it isn't salt, but perhaps it could be dmt ether or ester?

It's not either. It's an oxide of dmt. The difference is the same as iron and rust's.


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nadir
#3 Posted : 2/1/2010 7:34:05 PM

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hey,thanks for the answer. it really cheered swim up a bit Smile
action takes place in the geographical centre of Europe .
perhaps it's time to think about migration
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