I was never really a hardcore smoker. I'm 25 now and started when I was 19, which seems quite insignificant compared to most life long smokers I know, who mostly started between the ages of 11-16. Though I never really had a set average that I'd smoke. It was usually somewhere between 1 and 30 a day.

It's funny how my reasoning to quit differs from the reasons most folk talk about. Usually things like health/money/kids etc. Whereas I've only been smoking 6 years, I feel no obvious health issues, I can get a pouch of tobacco for less than a pint of beer and I don't have any kids/girlfriend etc. I did notice that quite often when smoking tobacco, about 1 minute into the cigarette, my mood would drop, like a very mild dysphoria, but that was only when smoking alone. Also late at night if I couldn't sleep I'd have a cigarette, which we all know is counter-productive most of the time, but sometimes seemed to work.

Anyway 1 week ago I consumed 212mg THH with 80mg DMT, which for me is nearly 2x my usual dose. I'm not going to make a report because I can't for the life of me remember exactly what happened, but... big purge, much time was spent on my knees, looking upward with both hands on my heart, with ancient scripture written in water dripping from the sky, matrix style... that sort of thing There was a lot of thinking about my childhood and how moving from place to place quite often was difficult i.e one school I'd be quite popular then at another one 200miles away I'd be very outcast etc Lot's of that kind of thinking.

So I pretty much tripped the night through from 3am to 7am. Usually after I've levelled out at the end of a trip the first thing I do is have a cigarette. But after around 10 seconds of looking for them I gave up and layed down for a while. I swear in my life I have spent 45 minutes at a time looking for my cigarettes. Literally turning my house inside out before I found them. I never gave up until I found them.. but yeah... 10 seconds and never mind It didn't even strike me as odd at the time. Then the next day I walked straight past the shop I usually buy my cigarettes and just... didn't. There was no trying to distract myself of any kind. I just walked straight past. So then I figured I'd see how long I can keep this up.

I had a visit from a friend who always brings some weed round to smoke which he rolls with tobacco. I insisted he rolled it with damiana instead, which we both agreed was a far superior smoke, so I gave him half my damiana. We visited another friend who had a joint rolled with tobacco, which I easily passed up on... I'm not a big weed smoker but as a consequence of which I find it to be a bit of a treat when offered one But no temptation here.

But anyway that pretty much covers 7 days of non smoking relations. Currently I'm not craving for a cigarette in any physical sense but psychologically, I'm very consciouss of the fact that I can have one if I want to. I'm currently unemployed so I have a lot of time to just sit around and very little to distract myself with. Cigarettes always seemed a very efficent way of taking a break from nothing and having time to think and regroup my thoughts and then going back to everything in a reset state of mind. I'm very aware that I'm drinking a lot more coffee than usual. maybe 3 cups more a day than my usual 1 in the morning only. Though I'm also drinking less alcohol which is good.

Anyway I'm going to give it a month of just coffee and the occasional beer with no DMT and mescaline at all, then I'm going to either have a mild pharmahuasca or a strong mescaline session and see if I feel like having a cigarette, as those states usually make me want to smoke a lot of anything. Not as much as mushrooms, but I don't know anyone who keeps those.

Anyway I found this whole thing very interesting, as I've heard and read lots about folk making an effort to have healthier lifestyles as a result of using these wonderful entheogens so I'm curious if folk have had similar outcomes from their experiences and what they did to supplement their new lifestyles. Quitting tobacco for me is especially interesting, because as much as all the anti smoking advertisement is so common place in all our day to day lives, out of all the substances there are, it's the only thing you can really do several times a day at home, at work or in the streets without being of any real inconvenience to anyone. I know for sure the next time I nip to the shop to grab a drink or a sandwich, as soon as I walk in, the cashier will have my favourite brand of tobacco waiting expectingly for me on the counter, with a pack of blue rolling papers, the total already tallied up on the register.

Much Love

I fully feel with you on this one Soulfood, although my tobbaco consumption has gone up since quiting the Skunk. I feel that soon il be following your footsteps and il give up the nicotene. When that day comes I bleieve that I wont need anything to pulement the nicotene, brain power is all that I need.

Although I have found that nibbling nice fruit does assist in not feeling the urge to smoke.

So here is to saving some ££ and our health.

Good luck quitting Soulfood! I have quit a couple of times in the past. The dificult bit is 3 months down the road when you get tricked by the nicotine. You think "it's OK, I have beaten it now, I'll just have 1 for this (whatever it is) occasion", and down the slope you go!!

I have given up again from NYE, I smoked about 5 roll ups a day for 10 years. I'm 29 now, so I want to be free of them before 30! I quit weed a couple of years ago, and never really missed it, I just take a spliff on the rare occasion it's offered.

I know what you mean about just not wanting one, I am in that place right now, I just hope it lasts, and that is where the will power comes in I guess. Gammagore - nice food is a must, you're right!! I have found I've put on a bit of weight by having a snack instead of a cig, but that is easily burned off.

Aye, to good health.

thanks for posting this soulfood ... I've been a heavy smoker (tobacco) for ages. When I first went Inside, I wanted a smoke afterwards, but increasingly I'm less inclined to. Just want to be free of it and clean. Maybe a bigger dose will cure me of the addiction once and for all!

Good luck staying free

88 I think that is kinda pointless. If you want to quit something you need to choose to not do it any more. "Taking a big dose to cure you of addiction" if it is even possible (which I personally doubt) removes that choice, which IMO leaves room for you to return to whatever you are quitting.

This is the method I am trying anyway. I havent smoked this month, but I have a pack of tobacco in the house. That way it is always possible to smoke, I am just consciously choosing not to. There are no excuses like susbstance X or substance Y helped me quit, or living somewhere where I can't get tobacco, it is simply my choice.

1664: you're right of course ... I'm guilty of making excuses, rather than choices. Thanks foe the haul-up

I use a dry snuff and it is much more pleasurable than smoking.
I dont know the long term effects of dry snuff but it did make quitting cigs really easy.
I personally love tobacco and I dont want to give it up however I am glad that I dont put the smoke in my lungs anymore.

But what about your teeth/gums/mouth/throat?

spock's brain quit smoking for like 6 weeks now. not due to any great trip or revelation. just more like, "o.k., i've had a love-hate relationship with this for long enough...I'm done with this.." similarly for other things that were plaguing spock's brain. nothing feels to much different. smoked 1 pack no filter per day for like 5 years, and saw the same female that didn't care back for SB. now, neither. Feling a little like falling in a void, but didn't want smoke after like 4-5 days

advice to quit is:
figure out it's not good for you more than you like it, to the extent you can remind yourself that you dislike it.

Good luck with quitting man, it does take a while to make it work for you. I wanted to quit for a while, but it was just always there, plus my gf smoked and that didnt help my cravings. I remember taking a few high dose lsd sessions, i could easily smoke a pack while tripping, it was just so smooth haha. But the next trip sort of showed me this wasnt good, this wasnt the way to do it. It made it quite clear to let this addiction/attachment go. And from then on I did just that, and after a few weeks i was fine. I havent smoked for years. My next battle will be with MJ.

I started smoking cigarettes at the age of 15. 20+ years later, and I can easily and honestly tell you its the stupidest thing I ever did. Good luck!

I quit 2 1/2 weeks ago, then last saturday was at a friends party and so had a couple of drinks and smoked about 4-5, even then I was thinking " this is doing absolutely nothing for me", the good thing was I felt no desire to smoke the next day or anything. I had 1 tonight because I was extremely angry about something and just needed to divert my attention for a few minutes, an excuse I know, but again, I have no desire to smoke another one, not like I normally would. I told myself for months that at a certain date I would quit and just kept it in mind so I could mentally prepare myself, and to be honest save for a few moments where I'm wound up, it hasn't been too testing.

I have a pack lying around the house so yeah, if I want one they are there, that way I can talk myself out of it if I start getting weak, but if I got to a point where I wanted one, and had to go out to buy them, then even if I changed my mind half way there, I'd probably end up buying them and smoking them anyway and thus be back to sqaure one. My GF didn't understand this logic either, but it makes sense to me and I aint doing too bad so far.

I started perhaps at 14 on and off, I'm 26 now and I realise it's getting to the point where if I don't knock it on the head it aint gonna be too long before I'm getting bad news from the docs. Not to mention it's so god damn expensive to smoke now, I'd only smoke 5 a day tops, but even so you can average 20-40 a week, and that works out to £60 a month just to smoke.....ridiculous.

Methtical

A fellow snuffer! I wasn't even thinking about quitting when I picked up my first tin of dry snuff... but after trying it, I found I really prefer it over smoking. It's hard to find info on the long-term health effects of dry snuff... I'm guessing it's still not so great. If you want to keep the nicotine without the cancer risk, Swedish snus is really the way to go. But I just really enjoy snuff.

And dimethylspice: I think you misunderstand the term "dry snuff". It doesn't touch your teeth/gums/mouth/throat; that's moist snuff. Dry snuff is fine powdered tobacco that you sniff into your nose.

And soulfood: Good luck with quitting smoking. Your lungs will thank you.

SWIM also vouches for nasal snuff. He discovered it recently and this is his nicotine of choice. He thinks it is not even remotely as addictive as cigarettes and it really is the shit in terms of effects. He snuffs tobacco 2-6 times a day.

In contrast to tobacco smoking and oral snuss, the side effects of nasal snuff are considered much much milder. There is a review of our current knowledge on the health risks of nasal snuff attached.

Snus is disgusting and hardly the way to go. I used to Snus, so I know. I used it to stop smoking but it packs such a punch you get hooked on Snus very quickly. Also, you look like you are deformed. When I first went to Sweden I though that there was a genetic heir lip amongst Swedish men, they all had a funny lip. Then I discovered that they all have a grubby brown blob wedged under their top lips, their teeth are stained brown and there is a permanent 'hole' in their gums where they wedge their wad of backy.

Replacing one addiction with another is fine if you want to save you lungs and die from mouth cancer instead. But all you're doing is replacing one addiction with another, one weakness for another, one recursive loop for another.

Don't believe the lie. Either stand up and say 'I don't really love tobacco, I'm just addicted to it' or put it down and walk away from it.

I've been free from tobacco 4 years now and I feel really good for it.

Yes, snus will still cause your gumline to recede, and I don't doubt that it stains the teeth. You're free not to like snus. The only thing I really object to in your post is this:



People who use snus (even those who use it heavily) have no greater risk of mouth cancer than people who use no tobacco products whatsoever. Snus doesn't increase your risk for any cancers of the head/neck/mouth/throat. It does somewhat increase your risk of pancreatic cancer, but less so than other tobacco products. That's why I say it's the safest way to go.

If you don't like tobacco, that's fine. No need to use it. But to claim that no one really likes tobacco is naive IMHO. I've never had any issues with nicotine addiction. I've gone through cycles of using it and not using it for many years. Putting it down has never been any problem for me, no nicotine withdrawals, no real cravings... I just like tobacco.

OK, swap mouth cancer for pancreatic cancer.




More power to you. My girl friend is like that. She smokes, but when her fags are finished she doesn't need to run out and get more. She can not smoke for a week and a pack can last her ages. She tells me she just likes it.

But you guys are a minority. You are really an exception to the rule.

I would go with the overwhelming majority of people who use nicotine products are addicted to it. I only see people struggling to kick it and buying in to the whole quitting malarky.

It's a nasty, needy, grubby little spirit.

I guess you can tell I'm one of those ex-smokers.

SWIM would more-or-less claim the same thing. He loves smoking cigarettes once in a while, and he also loves his snuff a bit more frequently. He never felt any addiction to nicotine either and he always finds it easy to take long breaks if necessary.

As for the mouth cancer issue, there are quite some controversial reports out there. What I see form just talking to people is that the notion of "smoking tobacco causes lung cancer" has slowly mutated to "tobacco causes cancer". In all seriousness, this is the notion in many people's minds. When SWIM was trying snuss he was told that he'll get mouth cancer. And when he was using snuff he was told that he'll get nose cancer. Guess what, when a friend of his was trying some nicotine patches he was told he may get skin cancer. For fuchssake.

People please try to rise above prejudices and common misconception.

Would you be kind and quote the excerpts from the report that specifically state the cercinogenicity of nasal tobacco?

thanks

Serious arguments please or take your crap away from here.

Please reference your claim about tobacco being radioactive. Please reference as well how the radioactivity of tobacco compares with the radioactivity of other foodstuff (from staple food to teas), just for comparison's sake.

As for the carcinogenicity per se, again reference your claims and compare them with other commonly used herbs. Carcinogenic compounds are found in many plants, but this says not much really. Even wheat, rye, barley have potential carcinogens! Please put your arguments into perspective.

Also, there's not need to use spoilers, what's the point? You don't spoil anything for anyone.