My very first journey, and my second properly dosed journey 3 weeks later were by far the best CEV OEV journeys Ive ever had. I noticed after the second journey, more frequent use was happening. I would say Once every other day. But the CEV were practically nil, and the open eye visuals were not as intense by any means.

One has been starting to wonder why. I know there can be tolerance. But also, I realized I had been taking 10mg valium once every night before bed as well. So I was thinking that may diminish the full effects of Dmt. Though not sure. Bluelighters said it shouldnt effect it much if at all. I did try to search here but for some reason it wasnt working.

So I am wondering if there is any prep work I can do to ensure the best in CEV OEV trips. Time is definitely a prime factor to consider. But I was also thinking of taking 5htp and or melatonin before bed instead of valium. 5htp for serotonin, and melatonin to get the pineal gland going, or exercising.

For 5htp, I would stop taking roughly 3 days before venturing to hyperspace as Ive read about its effects on MDMA, though absolutely not the same at all. Just to play it safe.

If anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate it.

Anyone? I really thought I would have some great input on this subject!

I don't know about the interactions with DMT of any of the other substances you mentioned, but I wouldn't take any of them anyway. If you aren't getting CEVs then most likely it is smoking method or not smoking enough?

I think valium can definitely dull things a lot, it may well be worth trying spice without it. I’m not sure about the usefulness of 5HTP or melatonin in getting better experiences in hyperspace.

How much spice are you putting in your pipe when you blast off? Maybe you need to perfect your smoking technique or add another 10 or 20mg of spice to your pipe and see whether you’re still having a threshold experience.

I have found that the amount of spice I need varies regularly, sometimes I need more, sometimes less...

I have to agree ^^ quality, quantity, set and setting and of course frame of mind (there are more) are all things that can affect a journey.

Keep at it, two journeys is nowhere near enough 'experience' to suggest "Oh this isn't working as well" or "It wont work as good, my body has built up a tolerance" (which is nonsense to some extent, there is a tolerance but it doesn't last long). You can't go 'applying labels' with such limited exposure.

You may find that your next few trips are weak but you also may have the most blissful experience's ever for the next ten.

Enjoy your travels

I believe proper time spacing, no valium, and proper measurement are the key ingredients to remedy this issue.

Ive been eye balling the amounts lately too. Not the wisest of ideas. But I had a general view of 50-70mg doses so I self dosed according to that. I will measure the dosage and get back to you. I do think Time and Valium were the key players in this though.

Melatonin is AWESOME, One 3 mg tablet before bed makes for a deep sleep and VIVID dreams. 5-HTP is something I only use after taking MDMA or other phenethylamines as Ive ready of the horrible effects of serotonin syndrome with constant use. I wouldnt take any perscription meds unless i cut my hand off and REALLY needed pain relief.

Ive been taking 100mg 5htp with 6mg of Melatonin for the past couple nights. I notice with the 6mg of Melatonin I fall asleep faster and dont wake up as frequent at night. I remember the last time I tried melatonin I had really vivid dreams. So far this isnt the case. As far as I can remember.

But We will find out how everything works soon enough. I will let you guys know right away.

First time I'm reading this...source?

I actually dont know the source right now as I read it awhile back, Im sure alittle research would provide the information. If im not mistaken I read it in a couple different places. Heres a link on serotonin syndrome:

http://en.wikipedia.org/...Serotonin_syndrome#Cause

Edit:I did alittle looking into it and it appears I was mistaken and its only if combined with SSRI's and other anti-depressants. You may still want to look into long term use as I thought Id heard that you can overdo it and get some fairly nasty side effects, though again I may be mistaken.

I know a lot of bluelighters talk about post dosing 5htp from MDxx.

I will attempt hyperspace at a more accurate way and I expect some decent results.

I will let everyone know