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Its time to get some naphtha in there. What ammounts of bark and lye did swim use? Ice House is an alter ego. The threads, postings, replys, statements, stories, and private messages made by Ice House are 100% unadulterated Bull Shit. Every aspect of the Username Ice House is pure fiction. Any likeness to SWIM or any real person is purely coincidental. The creator of Ice House does not condone or participate in any illicit activity what so ever. The makebelieve character known as Ice House is owned and operated by SWIM and should not be used without SWIM's expressed written consent.
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Posts: 162 Joined: 01-Dec-2009 Last visit: 09-Apr-2016 Location: TreeHouse
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i tink it does did u use hot naptha. if yes it wold be fine\ greedr pano Panoramix, the honorable druid. With his golden knife he cuts his herbs, with which he prepares his famous magic potion.
And he knows many other secret recipe,,,
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Posts: 14191 Joined: 19-Feb-2008 Last visit: 06-Feb-2025 Location: Jungle
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are you having any troubles or is this running ok for you?
because it seems like you are doing fine...
Anyways, you didnt post any quantities like amount of water/bark/lye/naphta, which are important for people to give you advices.. Also, what method of retrieval of crystals are you going for, freeze precip or evap?
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Posts: 17 Joined: 03-Jan-2010 Last visit: 28-Jan-2015 Location: Nor Cal
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endlessness wrote:are you having any troubles or is this running ok for you?
because it seems like you are doing fine...
Anyways, you didnt post any quantities like amount of water/bark/lye/naphta, which are important for people to give you advices.. Also, what method of retrieval of crystals are you going for, freeze precip or evap? SWIM utilized 1/2lb of bark, 120g of NaOH, 1L of water and around 230mL naphtha on the first pull. This was washed with the baking soda method outlined here. SWIM pulled the top layer off the wash then evaped some of the naphtha off the top, and put it in the freezer for freeze-precip. Any input would be great!! Someday I'll wish upon a star and wake up where the clouds are far behind me.
Where troubles melt like lemon drops. Away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me.
-The Wizard of Oz
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Posts: 17 Joined: 03-Jan-2010 Last visit: 28-Jan-2015 Location: Nor Cal
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SWIM is finally starting to see clear crystals building up on the sides of the jar. Clear bodies with tiny white tips! Someday I'll wish upon a star and wake up where the clouds are far behind me.
Where troubles melt like lemon drops. Away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me.
-The Wizard of Oz
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Posts: 14191 Joined: 19-Feb-2008 Last visit: 06-Feb-2025 Location: Jungle
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Soulcrusher wrote:endlessness wrote:are you having any troubles or is this running ok for you?
because it seems like you are doing fine...
Anyways, you didnt post any quantities like amount of water/bark/lye/naphta, which are important for people to give you advices.. Also, what method of retrieval of crystals are you going for, freeze precip or evap? SWIM utilized 1/2lb of bark, 120g of NaOH, 1L of water and around 230mL naphtha on the first pull. This was washed with the baking soda method outlined here. SWIM pulled the top layer off the wash then evaped some of the naphtha off the top, and put it in the freezer for freeze-precip. Any input would be great!! Seems like too much naphtha per pull.. when SWIM was still STBing, he used at most 150ml of warm naphtha per pull per 400g bark (just under a pound I think).. Otherwise as SWIY is doing, it will work but its so much naphtha that it wont be very saturated, and freeze precipitation wont work well, very little of whats actually inside will precipitate (or SWIY will have to pre-evaporate much before sticking in the freezer to get all the crystals out).. So dont throw the naphtha away after freezing, either reuse it or evap it till the end to see if there is anything still dissolved in it.. And maybe next time do smaller and warm pulls. good luck 
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Posts: 17 Joined: 03-Jan-2010 Last visit: 28-Jan-2015 Location: Nor Cal
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endlessness wrote:Soulcrusher wrote:endlessness wrote:are you having any troubles or is this running ok for you?
because it seems like you are doing fine...
Anyways, you didnt post any quantities like amount of water/bark/lye/naphta, which are important for people to give you advices.. Also, what method of retrieval of crystals are you going for, freeze precip or evap? SWIM utilized 1/2lb of bark, 120g of NaOH, 1L of water and around 230mL naphtha on the first pull. This was washed with the baking soda method outlined here. SWIM pulled the top layer off the wash then evaped some of the naphtha off the top, and put it in the freezer for freeze-precip. Any input would be great!! Seems like too much naphtha per pull.. when SWIM was still STBing, he used at most 150ml of warm naphtha per pull per 400g bark (just under a pound I think).. Otherwise as SWIY is doing, it will work but its so much naphtha that it wont be very saturated, and freeze precipitation wont work well, very little of whats actually inside will precipitate (or SWIY will have to pre-evaporate much before sticking in the freezer to get all the crystals out).. So dont throw the naphtha away after freezing, either reuse it or evap it till the end to see if there is anything still dissolved in it.. And maybe next time do smaller and warm pulls. good luck SWIM thanks you. SWIM also did warm pulls, utilizing a warm bath method to separate the layers easily. However, it still seems too much solvent was used and you are right, SWIM thinks she might pull the freeze-precip jars out and do a 50% evap with a fan and then re-freeze precip. Does that sound alright, or is something in SWIMS logic flawed? SWIM now thinks a bit too much solvent has been utilized... P.S. - SWIM heard final crystals are more pure using the freeze-precip method over the evap with a fan method. Is there any truth to this, seems to be people on both sides? Someday I'll wish upon a star and wake up where the clouds are far behind me.
Where troubles melt like lemon drops. Away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me.
-The Wizard of Oz
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Posts: 125 Joined: 16-Nov-2009 Last visit: 17-Aug-2012 Location: Outer Shpongolia, Inner Root Bark
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Absolutely beautiful XTAL that is a look and a half. Very well done, kudos!  A great deal of meditation is required
Fear the Journey not the cops
FunFUnFUN
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Posts: 557 Joined: 09-Sep-2009 Last visit: 26-Jun-2012
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Soulcrusher wrote:
P.S. - SWIM heard final crystals are more pure using the freeze-precip method over the evap with a fan method. Is there any truth to this, seems to be people on both sides?
By evaporating all the solvent off with the fan swiy will be left with some oily plant garbage and some spice. Freeze precipitating for 48hrs will yield very very clean white spice, the oils and shit will stay trapped in the naptha.
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