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Seems like insufflation would be the ideal way to administer DMT (the fumarate, that is). Effects are supposedly felt quickly, but last about twice as long as smoking. So why do I almost never read here about people using this method?
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Dunno, the few reports I've seen about insufflating speak of the agony of the burning feeling in ones nose  . Maybe it's just too painful? Now I'm curious... Pokey
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SWIM forgets which thread he read it in, though it showed bio-essaying something like 15mg, 25mg and 35mg and stopping due to the fact that 30mg smoked could almost produce a breakthrough while the snuff produced very very little, think "mild buzz" was stated it was in the FASA section, maybe Q21Q21's Tek: A comprehensive guide to extracting DMTThe 2 teks use non-toxic lime and vinegar and Tek 1: d-Limonene or Xylene or Tek 2: Naptha to produce very quick high yields with the greatest of ease.I am almost never on this site anymore so I will likely not answer PMs
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SWIM can definitely confirm that with freebase and fumarate insuffulated, the sheer agony detracts from the mild effects.
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someone was in the chat the other day..and they said they had to snort something like 300-400mg for a decent experience seems to me like an awful waste of spice..and also ive snorted fumarate and its fucking painful..made my head feel like it was burning from the inside...and i puked and then shit and got mild visuals... after that i wasnt afraid of a little nausea from pharma because as long as it didnt hurt that bad..i think i could handle it snorting dmt is not a good way to ingest it...its a waste...it hurts....and the other methods work sooooo much better if you want to have a longer experience eat 40mg dmt fumarate with 150mg harmala alkies....this dose for sends me off the deepend for many many hours
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To get the same effects from 15mg smoked freebase, I'd have to insuflate 150mg fumerate. I bled  It did last a little longer but for 1/3 that DMT and a dose of harmala's I could have had a 2-4 hour trip. There are some thing you just shouldnt waste
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John Murdoch IV
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Jorkest wrote:
if you want to have a longer experience eat 40mg dmt fumarate with 150mg harmala alkies....
Why fumarate? Why not freebase? ––––––
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DMTripper wrote:Jorkest wrote:
if you want to have a longer experience eat 40mg dmt fumarate with 150mg harmala alkies....
Why fumarate? Why not freebase? Fumarate is much easier for your body to absorb. DMT freebase, when taken orally, needs to be converted in your digestive system to a salt before you body can absorb it, in this process it takes a longer, stretched time before it's absorbed making it less effective. Before taking any oral DMT it's advisable to convert it to a salt before consuming, e.g. dissolving DMT freebase in OJ will make DMT citrate out of it. Kind regards, The Traveler
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Jorkest wrote:
seems to me like an awful waste of spice..and also ive snorted fumarate and its fucking painful..made my head feel like it was burning from the inside...and i puked and then shit and got mild visuals...
I almost fell out of my chair laughing when I read this. I think that says it all! Pokey
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SWIM says: "snorted 80 mg DMT freebase, blended with about 50 mg calcium carbonate (as precipitated chalk). Ow! Fuck! My nose! Aaargh! Over the next 5 mins a jungle scene appeared around me. A snake appeared in front of me so I thought, 'aha, I've been expecting you, come on in!' /snake enters brain/ I started writhing around as my limbs appeared to shrink away to nothing. Pain in nose becomes evolving venom glands and I am hissing like a snake. After ?10 mins I eventually spit all the foul-tasting crap out that has come out of my nose, feeling half snake, half human. The visionary state has faded and so has most of the pain. Conclusion: very interesting but was it really worth the pain? Also, pushed the limits of my suggestibility in entering the visionary state, which helps keep it inaccessible to the hyper-rational..." “There is a way of manipulating matter and energy so as to produce what modern scientists call 'a field of force'. The field acts on the observer and puts him in a privileged position vis-à-vis the universe. From this position he has access to the realities which are ordinarily hidden from us by time and space, matter and energy. This is what we call the Great Work." ― Jacques Bergier, quoting Fulcanelli
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Why not try DMT acetate? Others have found it doesn't burn when used sublingually, so maybe it will not burn if snorted. DMT acetate is an often overlooked salt form of DMT. It’s smokeable, works orally, work sublingually (without the burn), and I’ll bet it’s much easier to snort. It’s sticky, but you could put it on a carrier like cellulose to make it more like powder. You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.
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Nasal spray? That's an idea that used to get tossed around a lot but has never been attempted with acetate to SWIM's knowlege. Somewhere around 74mg/mL of jurema freebase dissolved in distilled white vinegar oughta cut it; it's the approximate concentration SWIM used for his tincture, and it doesn't burn, though it tastes horrid.
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Why not make a DMT acetate nasal drop without the use of vinegar? I think vinegar would not feel good in the nose. If you had DMT acetate and you put it in saline solution designed for the nose, that would probably work really well. But if there’s too much salt, DMT chloride will precipitate out. It’s something to try anyway. You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.
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Crystalline DMT freebase works wonderfully when insufflated, I'm happy to report, without any MAO inhibition. Here is a post I made on another forum which details my experience with the ROA: Quote:Converting your freebase to a salt will reduce burn, but you can definitely sniff the freebase to great effect. If you're looking to break through on freebase, but desire an extended trip duration, you'll probably want use a combination of intranasal and smoked DMT, to avoid too much discomfort. The actual insufflation process really isn't too painful, especially if you subdivide the freebase into a few smaller lines - you only really suffer the irritation of your nasal passages after the trip is largely over (IME) - regardless, if you end up sniffing too much, this can be rather uncomfortable.
A correctly executed combination of the two routes of administration has a really pleasing effect - the peak of the experience is lengthened to a substantial degree, aside from being simply intensified, by the intranasal dosage. I've been at a +4 for a solid ten minutes as a result of this routine - a stage of the smoked DMT flash that tends to only last me around 60 seconds. I find that a suitable balance between comfort and effect is to (fairly quickly) sniff about 150% of the quantity of DMT you'd smoke to break through (this quantity appears to vary from person to person), and, upon reaching about a ++ state, smoke one large hit.
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I tried to snort a small quantity of DMT freebase, not enough for any effects to be felt, and it burned my nose for about 3 hours. But maybe I'm just a pussy, if you're willing to go through this, try it.
What would be the advantages of insufflating versus administering sublingually?
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Quote:for a solid ten minutes contradiction much? Quote:PLUS FOUR (++++) A rare and precious transcendental state, which has been called a 'peak experience', a 'religious experience,' 'divine transformation,' a 'state of Samādhi' and many other names in other cultures. It is not connected to the +1, +2, and +3 of the measuring of a drug's intensity. It is a state of bliss, a participation mystique, a connectedness with both the interior and exterior universes, which has come about after the ingestion of a psychedelic drug, but which is not necessarily repeatable with a subsequent ingestion of that same drug. If a drug (or technique or process) were ever to be discovered which would consistently produce a plus four experience in all human beings, it is conceivable that it would signal the ultimate evolution, and perhaps the end, of the human experiment.
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I have had a decent experience with the DMT freebase (not fumarate).
I had been smoking it and I read it can be snorted. I set up a line that was .1 big, and eventually another that was 70 mg.
I had very mild effects for about 10 minutes, then it kicked in and lasted about 2 hours. not worth the pain or the amount of DMT to use it.
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omnia sunt communia!
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Angel_Above wrote:I have had a decent experience with the DMT freebase (not fumarate).
I had been smoking it and I read it can be snorted. I set up a line that was .1 big, and eventually another that was 70 mg.
I had very mild effects for about 10 minutes, then it kicked in and lasted about 2 hours. not worth the pain or the amount of DMT to use it.
What??? Were there harmalas involved? A 2 hour experience does not sound right at all for insufflated spice. Wiki • Attitude • FAQThe Nexian • Nexus Research • The OHTIn New York, we wrote the legal number on our arms in marker...To call a lawyer if we were arrested. In Istanbul, People wrote their blood types on their arms. I hear in Egypt, They just write Their names. גם זה יעבור
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Alex
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soulfood wrote:There are some thing you just shouldnt waste WORD! I dont mind wasting money or food or beer. but i see some kind of sacrilege in wasting the spice.
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Don't some tribes use like a blow-dart style tube to rocket the dmt-containing material into the nose? Maybe you could make some sort of contraption like that, and have a friend help ya out. Everything I post is made up fiction. SWIM represents a character who is not based in or on reality.
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