heretolearn wrote:Huge thanks to you, finally somebody actually answered the question I have asked
so machine burns less of your spice but is less more efficient than dabbing?
But people seem to argue a lot about this! So if you have used both which one in your opinion is also easier to use or better to vape dmt? Is it really worth your money to invest in some expensive e-meshes, if all other methods especially these two are still as crapy as the glass pipe?
How much better are they compared to normal glass pipe? in what ways are they better than oil burner?
You seem really focused on these two inferior methods and I suggest you look at better methods, but to answer the questions.
- In general there is less chance for burning of the material if you use the machine skillfully since it's kind of a pseudo-convection method, but dabbing is way more effective for getting a big blow you out of your body hit. Don't worry so much about burning, both methods are plenty effective and will get you to hyperspace.
PSA: Dabbing with a torch and red hot banger is dangerous when using a substance that causes you to lose control of your body. I STRONGLY advise against using this method alone! Please consider using an e-nail method or having a sitter if you go this route.
- Between dabbing and the machine I'd say dabbing is both easier and more effective. The machine (crack pipe) has a bit of a learning curve and takes some skill to operate efficiently, it does the job, but is a poor choice all around honestly.
- I assume you mean a regular cannabis style spoon pipe by glass pipe? This I would say is the best choice of all you have listed. You can sandwich the crystal between a couple layers of herbs and use it pretty effectively that way, or, what is actually the simplest and best method, you can make changa, load up the bowl and puff tough. IMO, Changa in a canabis style pipe is the one that meets the criteria you are seeking for easiest and best method.
The oil burner (meth pipe) compounds the bad of both dabbing and the machine. It's also a hot method wherein you are dealing with torches and burning hot glassware. It also has the potential to shatter and fill your face with shards of burning hot glass. It has a very steep learning curve and it burns the material more than any of the other methods listed.
Hopefully that helps answer your questions more clearly.
The meth tube and crack pipe were kind of the only options for effective crystal smoking in the early days and those being around on the forum are vestiges of those times. In the past decade or so many much better options have come about. Let's take a look at some of those.
Vape Juice: While I haven't been particularly impressed with my personal experiences with this method, I have no doubt that with the right concentration and high quality equipment this can be nearly as effective as a direct crystal smoking method. You can not beat it for ease of use and safety. Pull out mod, push button, inhale = hyperspace.
emesh: This is very very effective. Some of the cleanest tasting vapor I've had and really easy to use. You do have to fiddle with loading the material onto the mesh, but beyond that it's also just push a button, inhale, and hyperspace. It's also very inexpensive, you can pick up a roll of emesh for a few bucks and a cheap mod battery and you are good to go.
If you are willing to invest a bit more money...
GVG: Once upon a time, this was absolutely the best way to vaporize crystal and remains at top of the list. It's absolutely the best I've encountered for quality of vapor. It's sized just right and it really is the perfect pipe for DMT. That said, it is a pipe. You have to fiddle with loading crystals and using a lighter and dealing with a potentially hot and fragile device as you are quickly losing control of your motor functions after hitting it.
Electric vaporizers: Things like the Volcano and Arizer Extreme Q will give a quality of vapor nearly on par with the GVG and there is no fiddling with lighters and hot pipes. I found the bag method to work best (as opposed to the whip on the arizer). The only issue with these models is they are not portable, but that leads to Aeroman's post. The Arizer Solo hits all the marks it's an electic temp controlled true conduction vape that is also portable. I haven't yet been blessed with the chance to hit this one personally, but if I was shelling out to buy an new device for crystal DMT, it's the one I'd choose without hesitation.
Still, personally, what I consider hands down the best method is changa. It's cheap and easy to make. It allows you to use basically any pipe or even roll joints/blunts for a less immersive experience. It allows you to stack your dose so you don't have to rush to "take the third hit" to get the thing. You can ease in and go as deep as you want. It completely removes that whole bit of fiddling with mg scales and working with crystals when you are in the field. The harmalas seem to allow you to gain much more depth and learning from the experience than just the wow wtf was that flash of straight crystal DMT. There is just something satisfying about being able to load a nice bowl of herbs and leisurely puff your way to infinity.
Wow that's a long post!
TL;DR: CHANGA!