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#1 Posted : 1/31/2021 9:51:25 PM
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Hi I just want to know wouldn't be better if you could measure the temperature of your torch lighter to that you have heat up your spice just with right temperature so that you don't end up burning some of your dmt if you want to use oil burner pipe method?

Also how much of your dmt will usually burn if you are using that method? (I mean of course in most efficient way as you can Crying or very sad
 

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#2 Posted : 1/31/2021 10:10:17 PM

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#3 Posted : 2/1/2021 5:40:40 PM

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Salutations HereToLearn,

heretolearn wrote:
Hi I just want to know wouldn't be better if you could measure the temperature of your torch lighter...


Energy input is only reflecting an event of the past as "temperature" AFTER it produced "work" , so it begins with Watts turned into Joules and ends up with degrees Celcius - but that's not all just yet...

Thermal processes form a complex chain of similar events so if you really try to rationalize this it's your brains that shall fry, eventually. By the way here's a fresh visually-explicit short-cut although the path remains to be walked:



Feeding energy to this "core" structure as substitute for butane heat:



Why?

Can't begin to explain except just mention the Curie alloy "susceptor" can be exploited to set energy level via Temperature Self-Regulation in IH mode (read "effective/absolutely-reliable fail-proof limitation"...), while i've been repeatedly reminded on multiple "discussion" social boards this last decade that words are quite useless @ priori anyway!

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#4 Posted : 2/3/2021 4:34:35 PM

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heretolearn wrote:
Hi I just want to know wouldn't be better if you could measure the temperature of your torch lighter to that you have heat up your spice just with right temperature so that you don't end up burning some of your dmt if you want to use oil burner pipe method?


DMT burns quickly at > 200°C (I would guess < 300°C)... don't you think a flame is hotter than 300°C? I would guess a torch lighter flame is > 1000°C, depending where you measured (which would not be very easy to do accurately).

To optimize vaping, maybe try something other than a oil burner pipe. If it was easy and effective to vape with one, that's probably what most people would be doing.
 
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#5 Posted : 2/3/2021 5:08:17 PM

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Can you measure the temperature of your torch lighter?


An infrared 'laser' thermometer will detect thermal radiation. Thumbs up
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#6 Posted : 2/3/2021 9:42:04 PM

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#7 Posted : 2/4/2021 1:13:04 PM

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Problem is as far as I know there are only IR-Thermometers for condensed matter = no gases. There are thermal imagers like you see in movies, who may actually also give quantitative amounts and therefore measure gas, but they are up to 3700 € Surprised Thumbs down Twisted Evil.

But the actual flame itself will be ways too hot anyways, so people just hold the flame far away anyways to get down from ~ 1400 °C to 150 - 250 °C roughly.

You could buy a thermometer up this high (maybe there are some below 20 °C) and just check at what distance your torch lighter will produce this exact heat.

Problem if you would do Changa is:
It will be no homogenous surface, so if a leaf is guided towards the flame, then its surface will be ready for vaporization. But the backside of that leaf is reaching towards the flame like the dark side of the moon to us. So it will be easily 10 °C or maybe 50 °C less. Now it starts to get hard to get any estimations for optimal distance ... so by getting closer with the flame you would ensure that you get also the *hidden* parts of your Changa well vaporized, but while doing this, you will just overtorch the already exposed areas. So with Changa DMT-Destruction is inevitable Thumbs down

With your oil burner you could indeed check at what distance you get to 160 - 200 °C and then use this distance. It will just take longer for heating up than a thermometer and maybe due to heat dissipation across the bigger device it may not reach that same temperature at the same distance so you would have to get closer ...

Maybe just use a tea-light which you can place on the table and then check at what distance you would get to 250 °C with thermometer and then use this distance for oil burner, which may get up to 230 °C at same height?

But before making too much investions into this, better use a more controlled way of heat delivery with a suitable device (E-Nail / E-Mesh for example) and just eat the Harmalas.
 
 
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