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Blazon
#1 Posted : 1/13/2021 4:05:27 PM

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think he did this mainly so the frogs can be left alone

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#2 Posted : 1/13/2021 5:27:17 PM

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I myself agree that the toads should be left alone, just until we know their population won't be at risk. In the meantime I'm making a bufo farm to make sure these little beauties aren't being taken from their natural habitats.
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Reena
#3 Posted : 2/1/2021 2:29:53 AM
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I’ve worried about this quite a bit myself, hopeful with the synthetic version he provided there will be less people looking for the toad.
 
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#4 Posted : 2/1/2021 12:59:50 PM

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Reena wrote:
I’ve worried about this quite a bit myself, hopeful with the synthetic version he provided there will be less people looking for the toad.


Is sort of a very common believe that "nature" is better than chemistry even tho I don't get what they see. The very few other alkaloids in the Sonoran-toad secretions are so minute its ridicules. People tend to put too much weight on minor differences and forget about the major ones like dose, set and setting. There is a synthetic and semi-synthetic version available since years already. Not to long ago you could buy them legally at least here in Germany until policies changed.
I don't get the point of all those Neo-Shamans talking about mother earth and living in harmony but torture and harm little frogs for their own benefit.
But I hope that collectively we can work towards a more sustainable approach.
...so forth and so on...
 
 
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