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FractalPropagation
#1 Posted : 10/4/2020 4:21:42 AM
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Hello,

Swim extracted and smoked two times and felt no effects.

Swim extracted powdered ACRB (making sure to defat before adding the base) using an acid base extraction with naptha as a solvent, and after freezing yielded clean yellow crystals.

Swim then used a dream maker tool by Gordo Tek (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HjK1YGq0Lo) with 50mg of spice and mirrored the Gordo Tek video with the exception of using a regular lighter instead of a butane torch, making sure to hold the flame a couple inches from the foil to prevent burning. Swim then took one big hit and held it in for 15 seconds, and then took secondary hits without feeling any effect.

Does anyone have any insight into why Swim did not experience any effects?
 

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#2 Posted : 10/4/2020 8:57:40 AM

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Hello

You should definetly feel sth. even if you only get 5mg. The dream maker is not the easiest
tool to use.
Maybe try it in sth. else.

I hope you find a way

Have a gud one
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unless you want to be changed. They enable change. They can´t impose it.
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FractalPropagation
#3 Posted : 10/4/2020 4:55:37 PM
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potnoble wrote:
Hello

You should definetly feel sth. even if you only get 5mg. The dream maker is not the easiest
tool to use.
Maybe try it in sth. else.

I hope you find a way

Have a gud one


Hello friend,

What would be the method of failure with the dream maker, is it the spice burning? When swim used it, it appeared to fill the jar with vapor just like in the Gordo Tek video which swim inhaled and held in. Swim did notice after when taking the foil off that it looked a bit brown and burnt on the side with the spice, and a bit had also melted and pooled in the foil as well.
 
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#4 Posted : 10/4/2020 6:02:27 PM

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some people don't feel anything,think it was about 5% of participants in the last DMT research(Strassman)

 
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#5 Posted : 10/5/2020 6:34:43 AM

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FractalPropagation wrote:
...it looked a bit brown and burnt on the side with the spice, and a bit had also melted and pooled in the foil as well.


most likely only a small portion vaporized even you did see vapor in jar. A better device would be ideal, or you'll have to light it really carefully.
 
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#6 Posted : 10/5/2020 8:09:37 AM

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Hi

The cheapest method is a "crack pipe". Lots of people started with that including me.
Maybe your DMT ran away from the heat and is stuck on the tin foil.
Clean DMT is pretty much invisible when turning liquid.
I am not experienced with acacia but from what i know alot of people get goo from it
instead of crystals.

I hope you can find a way to experience DMt. Thumbs up

Have a gud one.
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#7 Posted : 10/5/2020 11:23:51 AM

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Try a different vaporization method, ideally a convection-based one. Check our FAQ for more info.
 
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#8 Posted : 10/6/2020 9:21:17 PM

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Try changa. I've heard some say they tried dmt one or three times to no effect and that they must be in the 5% who dont experience effects. I doubt it. Smoking DMT is a learning curve--100 times more so if the user doesnt have experience inhaling substances. That being said, I've smoked DMT 200 times and still have little to no idea how the contents are even possible or what is the conclusion to be drawn.
Behold, a sower went out to sow
 
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#9 Posted : 10/8/2020 1:23:26 PM
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The best , and I mean the really best way for a newbie to smoke DMT is a E-cigarette ... And I dont mean this kind of vape sticks from the gas station. It should have a minimum power of 45 Watts and a RDA , RTA or RDTA atomizer. Google it if you dont know what I mean. I guess everyone have a friend who own something like this. Ask him for his RDA and dripp some DMT liquid on top the coils and be ready for the flight.

For the DMT (beginner) e-liquid : 10ml e-liquid bottle, 1g DMT freebase , some tasty e-liquid....put the DMT in the empty bottle, sprinkle some drops of Ethanol (Everclear or even Vodka)...the DMT will dissolve immediately. Top up with the tasty liquid. You could even leave the ethanol and speed up the progress with a warm water bath, but I can highly recommend ethanol , its safe to vape and acts as a flavor enhancer

You can use even more DMT. With this technique you can easily make a mixture that can give u a 1 hit breakthrough. If you never used a e-cig before, try to vape some normal and nic-free liquid the day before. It needs about 1-2 days until you can make big ass inhales, which you defenetly need to consume DMT at its best efficiency .... sorry for my bad english ^^

 
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#10 Posted : 10/19/2020 12:52:22 AM

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#11 Posted : 10/19/2020 1:06:10 PM
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Are you on any medication perhaps? Can also try changa.
 
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#12 Posted : 10/19/2020 3:36:47 PM

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Whatever method you are using, be very careful with heat to make sure you aren't burning it.

I have a friend, who have very low sensitivity to DMT. Doses that would send 9/10 people on a Hyperspace Express ride only give him mild CEVs.

Maybe it's your brain chemistry.

What is your substance/drug use history? Anything that stands out and could interfere?
 
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#13 Posted : 10/19/2020 6:34:22 PM

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Sorry - I realize that in chiming in I'd inadvertently hijacked the OP's thread. Apologies! I'll create my own if I see fit.
 
 
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