I can't find anything that references to modern science wanting to understand ideas like what i mentioned and is always disregarded as an effect caused by another variable. Ive read about similar things happening through self meditation on your own and articles on that and then is also usually dismissed as an exercise for health and never really find anything that tries be able to examine ideas that i guess are not tangible or elaborate more and then it just gives me a lost feeling and think I need to mature more before trying to contribute will probably be working on that more