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Blazon
#1 Posted : 8/11/2020 11:14:06 PM

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Greetings,

This is my first post so be gentle pleaseSmile

I am very impressed with this site,I have been fact checking for some time but decided to make an account as you guys seem to be next level from everyone else out there,also like the system how you allow new members like myself to come here,I have seen a thread about woodlover paralysis but not allowed to reply to that thread so will post my first question here as noticed there is lot of knowledge between you and scientific too.
English isn't my first language

I grow my own mushrooms,shitake,turkey tail and cubensis which brought me to mycology as a hobby.
Maybe ate raw mushrooms once or twice but they made me gag big time so always was drinking teas and lemon tek.Used to do mushroom trips few times a year in the past but it didn't feel right(2-4g dried),but no problems on LSD which I actually prefer if I am going tripping, which I do about 4 times a year now.

I am currently experimenting with microdosing as feel the benefits,using 00 capsules and grinded dried cubensis,o.1g per dose,three times a week,sometimes I add 5-10mg of DMT through volcano.
I went through cancer in my 30s and medicating on cannabis oil mainly(THC/CBD)make it myself all as I want to know exactly what I am taking.

There seems to be conflicting answers(people on shroomery necking it all kind of ways but others sourses say all mushrooms need to be cooked to consume safely due to toxins)
Now my question is,what do you think? Can small doses in capsules be dangerous? The thing is i like the capsule route.Does anyone know how mushroom suplements are made?Are they cooked before being capsulated?

Thank you for reading

EDIT:
maybe if i cooked them before in the oven and than put into capsules could be the safe way, but how long and what temperature? Similar to lemon tek 100C for 20min ?


 

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Blazon
#2 Posted : 8/12/2020 12:11:51 AM

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from making oil I do realize how high can change just by extra decarbolization,few degreess can make difference,CBD needs higher temperatures compare to THC etc...

I know psilocibin/psylocin degrade by temperatute a little bit,maybe not noticable when brewing 5g but if taking 0.1g this could make a difference between me wasting my time or getting my microdose.
 
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#3 Posted : 8/12/2020 2:47:24 AM

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I personally haven't noticed issues with raw or dryed cubensis.

There are some mushrooms you definetly need to process (e.g. A. muscaria, morels). I think the "always cook" advice is a foraging generality, but I don't think it is needed for certain specific species grown in sterile/clean conditions.
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#4 Posted : 8/12/2020 5:35:39 PM

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I've never heard of people cooking homegrown cubes. Usually they are dried "cracker dry" with the help of dessicant.

What effects do you get from .1 gram cubes? I know microdosing has become very popular, even in mainstream culture. Personally, every time I eat a small dose of mushrooms, last time it was a gram or so, I end up wishing I had eaten my usual 3.5 grams.
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#5 Posted : 8/12/2020 9:09:40 PM

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What effects do you get from .1 gram cubes?


well,i take it before bed and wake up refreshed,sometimes i add some dmt as my brain is activated.I do full blown trips but this microdisng has some potential.basically I am getting
the afterglow and if I want to spice it up DMT is the way to go,get the peak without tripping 8 hours +.
Main reason for my question is my cancer,it was kidney cancer stage 1 grade 2,I was self medicating with oil for 3 years prior to diagnoses,they reckon i had it for 5 years,main sypmtopms high blood pressure and back ache.hence the toxicity regarding mushrooms.I have lost nearly 50% of my kidney and I don't want to take any chances.

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for the type of cancer I had/have (need another 6months to be in remision)not chemo or radio works
 
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#6 Posted : 8/12/2020 10:46:57 PM

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I am doing all my experiments under medical supervision,I have my brother on the line who is a doctor(traumatology surgeon) and i get CT scan every 6 months and all the blood tests.

With LSD and tryphamines in general we talking micrograms/miligrams,basicallly stimulants and opiods are bad for kindneys,i want to live a bit too,helps eith the whole idea 'what if you die and stuff' so I can see why it does make sence to dose people with terminal diagnoses,it does reduce the anxiety as you kind of know it won't be over.....

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What I will do is to bake my dried cubes at 100C for 15min but instead of 0.1 will take o.3g
This way I can have piece of mind.

Never have done breaktrouh,only waiting room stages but I will get there soon,DMT is first substance I had open eyes visuals(painting on the wall travelling )

I have the book by Rick Strassman and the theory was people who were born by cezerean section(like myself) find it harder to have visuals etc so in theory my pinal gland wasn't activated at birth maybe properly.

I get that state of mind as on triptamines ,closed eye visuals ,but never open eye visuals like on had on DMT
( 300micro of lsd will get me into things changing shapes and on mushies cloesd eye visuals like caleidoscope)

I am 6'4 and 16st,so even by weight I would have to do more than the average person does.

At the moment I use DMT to have a'top up' instead of having more LSD or mushies.

Also me taking capsules of oil I probably have a cross tolerance(11 OH THC)
Sometimes when I over do it on oil I feel like I am tripping(especially sativas) but not in a nice way,more anxiety and wishing it will be over soon.
Most of my bad trips came from cannabis as you get the phsysical changes like high blood pressure and increased heart rate.
LSD is vasoconstrictor and I can't enjoy it properly without few beers on top,also always smashing weed like its going out of fashion Cool








 
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#7 Posted : 8/13/2020 12:37:09 AM

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Loveall wrote:
I personally haven't noticed issues with raw or dryed cubensis.




I have noticed fresh are a bit more visual,more active in a way comapre to dry cubes.Fresh is the best when going to take mushrooms in higher doses,keeping dry ones for capsules microdosing, but going to do 2g of dried Amazonian soon and few bags of DMT see how I get on.#

With LSD i can be in more controle of the trip and more active while on mushrooms I have troubles to go to toilet,can't feel my legs,kind of go to jelly.
There is a thread here wood lovers paralysis,once I am allowed to go in I will post there too,maybe cooking/boiling can get rid of this.



 
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#8 Posted : 8/13/2020 1:40:17 AM

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Blazon wrote:
Loveall wrote:
I personally haven't noticed issues with raw or dryed cubensis.


I have noticed fresh are a bit more visual,more active in a way comapre to dry cubes.Fresh is the best when going to take mushrooms in higher doses,keeping dry ones for capsules microdosing, but going to do 2g of dried Amazonian soon and few bags of DMT see how I get on.#

With LSD i can be in more controle of the trip and more active while on mushrooms I have troubles to go to toilet,can't feel my legs,kind of go to jelly.
There is a thread here wood lovers paralysis,once I am allowed to go in I will post there too,maybe cooking/boiling can get rid of this.


I do agree that fresh seem more potent (using the 10:1 standard weight ratio). Could be simply that some activity is lost during drying. As far as discomfort haven't noticed any issues.

I believe that in for wood lover's paralysis we've discussed using the high polarity and + charge of what are the leading candidates of causing paralysis. I think a cold water pre-rinse and/or making a tea with ~neutral pH that goes through a standard water filtration cation resin have been proposed.
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