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First time extraction but afraid to do it because of waxy structure Options
 
Newton3rd
#1 Posted : 6/14/2020 3:06:41 PM
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Hello

I ve been a lurker here for a few weeks and am excited to be in this community. I have limited as a psychonaut so not much to say in that regard, never done dmt.


For the extraction I used Nomann tek with a few mods(warmer naptha and mix). I Got close to 1 G after 2 pulls. Could have done more but SWIM did a very bad mistake and inhaled some of the naptha. More on that later.


https://postimg.cc/gallery/cxr8mW9

Here is the yield. It smells like new sneaks. But there s a catch. The naptha that I used is Zippo lighter fuel, which is pretty good since at the 5 ml evaporation test it left nothing behind. But after each pull I think it left some sticky, wax at the bottom of the glass which I think is parrafin wax. That wax is toxic and after ignition turns into toluene and benzene and other cancerous stuff. My question is the yield smokeable in that form or needs to be further rex?

Also another question is regarding the health. I unfortunately exposed myself pretty badly for no more than 3 days to the naphtha. Used a shitty 1 ml pippete and sometimes the bark mix would get stuck in the pippete so I pulled the other end, the one you use to suck the naptha out, and blew in it like in a balloon. Very, very dumb, I know now, but considering I am never gonna do it again am I good?

 

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Newton3rd
#2 Posted : 6/14/2020 11:25:55 PM
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I know what I did was stupid with the naptha and I learned my lesson the hard way but how about that yield? I wouldn't want to throw it away but I also would like to meet the dmt entities...I keep reading stories how people became better versions of themselves and spiritually enlightened and I also want that, being in the dark here a little.
 
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#3 Posted : 6/15/2020 9:42:39 AM

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If you have any doubts on purity of the product, you should definitely re-x it.
 
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#4 Posted : 6/16/2020 12:14:27 AM

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Hi Newton3rd,

I'm also just joined the nexus this weekend. So first congrats your pictures look like a successful extraction. I also like the Noman TEK. The waxy substance you have after freezing your organic solvent is normal and not necessarily caused by impurities in your solvent. You did the solvent evaporation from 5 mL to 0 and had no residue. The amount of oily, waxy substance you have now is most likely much more than could have been in your lighter fuel. This residue is probably plant fats and other alkaloids, together with more DMT and similar stuff.

Whether your spice is good to smoke? Hard to tell from just the picture, it does not contain very big crystals but looks okay (I've seen worse). There is an "is my spice ok to smoke?" thread on the nexus, check that out.

If you want to get beautiful white crystals, I recommend the following.
First get a solvent you are absolutely happy with regarding purity. Check out this thread, it is exactly about your problem: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=14772
The problem is that "naphtha" has many names and depending where you live different stuff with different intended applications is available. Generally I would try to get some solvent which is intended for medical applications (e.g. removal of band-aids from skin) you can get this even in your local pharmacy (expensive!), better avoid fuels as they have generally lower requirements for purity (which does not mean that there aren't high quality lighter fuels which are fine).
Second, recrystallize your product. This can be combined with a little A/B extraction of the waxy residue you may have left from your extraction. You will be surprised how much DMT is in there. The procedure can also be used to further purify the material you have shown. Be aware, that every purification results in loss of some material. It is always a trade of quantity versus quality.
For the A/B extraction, I recommend the following procedure:
Dissolve your crude material in water, acidified with citric acid (this is readily available in food grade, even in supermarkets or online in bulk for very cheap). Notice that DMT free base does not dissolve in normal water, but once acid is added it quickly dissolves, if you read the chemistry 101 thread here, you know why. Use as little water as possible! Now perform a naphtha extraction on the acid solution. You can use your zippo fuel for that, because the naphtha does not pick up the DMT from the acidic solution, only fatty and greasy impurities. Extract at least 2 times. Use a small, tall glass jar with lid or something similar. Keep all volumes low to save solvent.
Now make your aqueous phase basic again by adding concentrated NaOH solution in water (NaOH premixed with water) until the pH is >13. pH paper is helpful, but you can see without it when you are basic enough, as the DMT becomes insoluble in the water again and the whole solutions turns from clear to very cloudy. When this happens, maybe add a bit more base, then start again with naphtha pulls (same procedure as you did initally), this time using your high quality solvent. Cool your naphtha pulls (first fridge for half a day, then freezer). Slow cooling gives bigger crystals. You will see the difference. The basic aqueous phase should be extracted at least 3 times to recover all (well most) of your DMT. Before you go for your first travel, read the smoking TEK threads. Inhaling DMT is not so easy but if done correctly your jaw will drop from amazement. Be careful, it is powerful.

Best wishes!
 
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#5 Posted : 6/16/2020 12:21:04 AM

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Oh and regarding your naphtha inhalation... don't worry too much. It already happened, be better prepared next time. Get a glass turkey baster. Way easier than a small pipette.
If you did not get a headache or drowsiness from the naphtha, it was not too bad. If you have a smoking habit this will be way harder on your health. Despite, I thought vampires are immortal anyways? Wink
 
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#6 Posted : 6/16/2020 2:46:56 PM

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Man, i took a look at your pics and maybe I'm not seeing what it is your talking about, but most folks would be proud of having made that.

An overabundance of caution is applaudable, and as pointed out above, if your still apprehensive a simple re-x (for which clear instructions for multiple methods are available here) should put you at ease.

It seems odd that you would think a layer of paraffin formed. How exactly would that happen?
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