Hello

I want to share something from my inner explorations, wondering if anyone here has more experiences in this area.

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This is what I have tried: I move the inner observer, slowly, consciously, layer through layer, as described in Leary&Tibetan-Book-of-Dying (I practiced what Leary advised in a few ayahuasca sessions, and it worked; then I learned the process and applied it to my inner experiences). So, I traverse the emotional layer, then the cognitive, then the visual dreamy state, and reach a sort of deep sleep with no thinking. This is like arriving in the inner spacious space-void, which is, in fact, the physical space occupied by my body bubble of energy and information.

In this inner space, I use the inner sound (some say tinnitus, others say carrier wave) to create a sync in the audible vibrations, and create a single coherent wave. This is a sort of taming the carrier wave, the same sound that appears very strongly in the DMT experiences… and the result is that, when the global sync is activated, I enter the fundamental energy/body-chi/kundalini-layer, while remaining visually active.

I noticed that smoking natural tobacco with a paper filter intensifies the pitch of the inner sound, and it is easier to work with the inner sound after I smoke a hand-rolled cigarette (I use Bali Shag White). Sometimes, I begin the experience by focusing on the sound, and then I dive into myself. Sometimes, vice versa.

In my view, the high pitched sound that appears during DMT experiences, usually called “carrier wave”, is a result of the self-tuning-energy, due to the “pressure” of the hyper-synchronizing process. I use the term “inner sound”, as I noticed that this sound becomes noticeable not only in DMT experience but also when people begin their transformational journeys in Life or go through transformative times (usually the inner sound is diagnosed as tinnitus).

I was happy to discover this article about tinnitus: “The Brain: “Ringing in the Ears” Actually Goes Much Deeper Than That”
http://discovermagazine....he-ears-goes-much-deeper

... confirming somehow my hypothesis that the carrier wave/tinnitus may be a result of a transformational time with increased synchrony happening (perhaps related to the endogenous DMT production):

“Winfried Schlee of the University of Konstanz in Germany and his colleagues have been making some of the most detailed studies of tinnitus ever, using a method called magnetoencephalography (MEG, for short). They take advantage of the fact that every time neurons send each other signals, their electric current creates a tiny magnetic field. MEG allows scientists to detect such changing patterns of activity in the brain 100 times per second.

Schlee and his colleagues find widespread differences in the brains of people with tinnitus and those without it. A network of regions in the brains of people with tinnitus tend to fire their neurons in sync. Schlee has determined that his tinnitus-stricken subjects have a more synchronized pattern of signals coming out of regions in the front and the back of the brain. (For brain anatomy junkies, they are the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex, orbitofrontal cortex, and anterior cingulate cortex in the front; in the back, they are the precuneus and posterior cingulate cortex.) Schlee and his colleagues also discovered a more strongly synchronized flow of signals coming into the temporal cortex—a region that includes the auditory cortex—in people with tinnitus.”

I prefer to use earplugs when I work with the inner sound. But also I like using earplugs and above-the-ear headphones with nice bass, to get the benefit of the centering (offered by high pitch) and the liquid flowing (offered by the bass and middle, and some blurred high notes).

Thanks
O.

I can somehow relate to this... After doing a lot of for example Kriya Meditation or Tumo or similar you notice that this sound slowly builds and get both more intense but also shifts to a higher frequency after a while.. And if you use this as a tool concentrating on it in meditation its much easier to get to a Samadhi (highly loaded word haha) state. But usually there the sound goes away .. everything goes away.. its just peace.. mmm

WHen you consume a higher dose of Ayahausca and after some hour shut off the music this sound can become so strong that you can barely stand it.. the whole room starts to vibrates including you.. highly alarming! haha

Thanks. I see what you mean, yes, with samadhi-style. my option is to use other technical words to describe this union - usually "samyama" (from Yoga Sutra, the continuous flow of attention toward something inside-outside-both). Sometimes absorption from Buddhism. Sometimes full connection.

This disappearance of the sound... it seems to me that what happens is when the sync has reached a threshold, the entire energy field vibrates in a beautiful melody with all the things inside and outside the field. The sound is there, but the perception is inside the wavelength, so the sound is felt like a flowing, not heard. How does this view relate to your experiences?

O.

I've done a lot of meditation and I have gotten to the point where I no longer have a voice in my head and only hear this tinnitus sound plus external sounds. If I need to think something out it has to be done through my voice. I also have permanent tracers and slight (really low resolution) visuals. At night when I try to sleep the visuals and tinnitus ramp up until I wake up in the morning. If I am able to get to that "beautiful vibration" that you described its only for a few seconds and then I snap back out of it. I feel like I have hit a cap from meditation and don't know where to go from here.

I always forget what it feels like until I am back in there...

I can not really define that state, its beyond definition.. Bliss, peace is the best I can do.. Not a state I have unlimited access to, opposite, its just occasionally.. When I least excpect it.

I also agree with Icyseeker that same here.. just for a few seconds in that deep state and its very hard to hold on to.. Sometimes it can get so intense like Ive been smoking Bufo, and the excitment that then comes usually pulls me back out of it haha.. Its like: Yeeeeeaahh... and then NOOOOOO hahaha..





This I can relate to..

Thanks. Well, I have managed to develop some methods to enter in the sync state (I call it DMT sync or DMT-like sync), and navigate through for a longer period of time. But, when the energy sync is high, I gotta stand up and dance. That's why from time to time I use earplugs + headphones, because the melody or what it is helps me maintain the focus on the sync while moving. SWIM told me that microdosing ganja sometimes helped him enhance the depth of connection.

I am also curious, occasionally when I am relaxing, in silence, I hear various crossing sounds inside the skull, something like an electrical current is passing through, whoaaaammmm, or fryyy, or something like that, max 1 second, or shorter, usually shorter. But very dense and powerful. When this happens it is absorbing my attention fully, it sucks everything. It definitely has to do with some neural waves, but I am more interested in the subjective effect. In some cases, it is connected with the heart, something happens at the same time in the heart and the brain. Sometimes, only in the head area. Sometimes the sound appears when a part of my body is suddenly releasing tension. But in this last example, the sound in the head happens after the relaxation "event" in the body. Immediately after, but still... after. At least up to now.

Have you observed anything like that?


O.

Yes I do occasionally hear really weird distinctive sounds that I know did not come from the external world. Not really sure what the sounds mean but most of the time it is unwanted and really crass. It doesn't feel like something that means anything sort of like a an accident. For me its distinctively in my brain region. I have learned to just live with them as I don't think that it will be of determent to me physically.

Sometimes very rarely I am able to here something like a symphony for a few seconds don't know what that is all about but suspect it has to do with development of a new type of thought for my brain that is just my suspicion though. Weed also makes me hear hallucinations but at a much better rate.

Between the ages of 5-12 when I was having sleep disturbances, involving out-of-body experiences (OBE) and crazy vivid lucid states, I utilized the 'sound'.

At first it was more a watching out for it in a state of sheer terror. After laying for 5 minutes in silence the sound in the room would seem to get muffled and drop away, like being outside a football stadium in the din of the street noise but then suddenly you're in the centre of the football field where it is shielded from noise and eerily quiet. The inside of my head would feel gigantic and empty, but then this buzzing sound would begin to encroach from one side. It was difficult to discern the location in the sense it felt like the sound was closer to 'me' than my eardrums are to the centre of my head. It grew louder and more intense, getting ever closer. As it got real close there was a mixture of terror, myself, and energy.. also difficult to differentiate. Sometimes there would be bright scenes at the peak, exactly like a DMT flash. Fucking terrifying as a child.

The buzzing sound is frequently referenced in OBE and astral projection literature. One can speculate on a potential esoteric origin but personally I feel getting way too attached to the mechanics is a divergence away from its potential; Eaglepath said,



This applies through lucid dreaming and other states too. My opinion is that getting too emotionally involved automatically draws in the waking state ego and thought processes which can not exist in these states that easily without real effort and focus, and therefore this activates a survival instinct in the body which draws the locus of attention back to the physical body. I think the body feels that to give up the locus of attention to these states is equivalent to death.

Personally having experienced sound and visual disturbances so much during prone meditation/sleeping I'm more inclined to believe that they are both sort of like seizure type activity in the brain, with neurons either syncing up too much or over activating. Basically intense neurological activity. There may well be esoteric mechanics involved, and whilst it doesn't hurt to have a speculation on it giving too much credence and attention to it is pointless.. you'll never prove anything or do much for yourself wasting time on it.

As always the key point is though, much like in DMT, to not get distracted by the sensations before you but recognize them as things happening externally to you and take your attention in the opposite direction. IMO.

Hi xss27, and thanks. I have extensively studied the use of sound in OBE, and the OBE itself (my former partner used to do this kind of dreaming-with-body-image-self). Still, my big problem while studying the OBE-sound connection was... the OBE state itself, which to me is a sort of... embodiment bypassing (to use the same metaphor as in spiritual bypassing). After my former partner started to be more embodied, her OBE frequency highly diminished up to almost none.

And, thanks to Susan Blackmore's experiment with the daily post on her fridge, unreadable by any so-called OBE travelers, well, I just quit the field without having too much knowledge benefits from there.

https://www.susanblackmo...i-had-to-change-my-mind/

Interesting stuff!

The purpose with life is to focus!

If I'm understanding your post correctly, then the sound tends to dissipate quicker to the point of non-perception the further or more skillful one gets at finding themselves in the OBE state. Assuming that's what you meant in regards to your former partner, I think that is the case. It's like learning any new process, like jogging for example. You tend to focus in on specific symptoms or perceptions, they act like milestones, but over time they lose their importance and you just skip over them because focusing on them would be a hindrance to the greater goal and a waste of energy.

Ah. I mean she skipped having OBEs due to becoming more connected to the body. Bye bye OBE, welcome conscious embodiment. :-)