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Propello
#481 Posted : 4/22/2020 6:19:06 PM

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#482 Posted : 4/23/2020 7:11:45 AM
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Propello wrote:
https://www.911metallurgist.com/blog/mesh-to-micron-conversion-table


Thanks. But now I am even more confused; since the numbers seem not to be align with the ones in the following ebay link.

From here, I would need the 'Mesh #150' (see article description), right? Link
 
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#483 Posted : 4/23/2020 9:10:11 AM

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MuteUSO wrote:
Propello wrote:
https://www.911metallurgist.com/blog/mesh-to-micron-conversion-table


Thanks. But now I am even more confused; since the numbers seem not to be align with the ones in the following ebay link.

From here, I would need the 'Mesh #150' (see article description), right? Link


Mesh #100 or #120. Mesh 100 got holes of 147 um/microns width according to the chart, or 140 at this seller.
 
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#484 Posted : 4/24/2020 5:37:40 AM

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Any tips on why it would be too harsh for me to inhale a full hit? it like kills my lungs and makes me cough the whole rid im using a vandy v2 with the vandy mesh
 
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#485 Posted : 4/24/2020 7:13:28 AM
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Propello mentioned in the past that the mesh provided with the VV2 was not of the best quality, and it was better to buy some better one like this one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/i...:mVhYJq3okBcOfxNwzG0jvmw

Do you get the mesh slightly red ? It should for sure not be glowing red, that's way too hot Thumbs up
 
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#486 Posted : 4/24/2020 8:43:53 AM

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MantisShrimp wrote:
Any tips on why it would be too harsh for me to inhale a full hit? it like kills my lungs and makes me cough the whole rid im using a vandy v2 with the vandy mesh


If you can provide details of the set up and settings I'll try to help out.

Don't put the tube all the way down, same with the top cap.
This is for extra height so the mesh don't touch the top cap,or you will burn your crystals.

Check the mesh glowing color with and without the top cap on. As thenabu says, it might be too hot.

Report back with details if it doesn't work out.
Pictures is helpful.

Good luck.
 
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#487 Posted : 4/24/2020 1:46:37 PM

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Okay appreciate it, I will try to gap it a bit more and will take pictures/video later appreciate all the info in this thread.
 
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#488 Posted : 4/24/2020 4:37:26 PM
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Sorry if this is off-topic, but I felt it belongs here. What I was wondering all the time is whether these mods that are talked about here like the Aegis Solo could be used with a dry-herb atomizer to 'smoke' changa/enhanced leave.

Anyone got some ideas on how well this would work?
 
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#489 Posted : 4/24/2020 4:52:32 PM

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MuteUSO wrote:
Sorry if this is off-topic, but I felt it belongs here. What I was wondering all the time is whether these mods that are talked about here like the Aegis Solo could be used with a dry-herb atomizer to 'smoke' changa/enhanced leave.

Anyone got some ideas on how well this would work?


There are dry herb atomizers with 510 connection you can use on all mods. See https://vaping360.com/be...anks/dry-herb-atomizers/

Don't know how good they work though.
 
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#490 Posted : 4/24/2020 10:36:40 PM

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Off topic, but I'm wondering why Propello's avatar is not smoking from a mod 🙃

But seriously, thanks for all this work and support 👍
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#491 Posted : 4/24/2020 10:53:02 PM

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Loveall wrote:
Off topic, but I'm wondering why Propello's avatar is not smoking from a mod 🙃

But seriously, thanks for all this work and support 👍


They weren't invented while Groucho lived...

Just love the Marx brothers old movies.


 
MantisShrimp
#492 Posted : 4/27/2020 3:15:57 AM

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Using Aegis Geek Mod
TC-SS setting with the vandy mesh sheets (The other option you listed, I ordered a sheet to made the fitted ones from ebay)
WAT: 34
TCR: 112
Temp: 165 - 175 C i've tried

I have a VV 2. I couldnt even hit it last time I think that's from not having a clean mesh in but even when i've done it with clean mesh I can inhale but not even keep the hit in. It makes me question if my extraction is proper and what not but I even tried it after doing a re-x and had same results. Considering getting some professional extracted to eliminate that variable but I don't quite believe that's the issue.

I also tried not going down to the second o-ring as well. I have a small metal mouth piece attachment that adds an extra inch. But I feel like I need water filteration and an ice cube its so harsh to me lol.
 
Propello
#493 Posted : 4/27/2020 9:09:15 AM

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Hi mantis!

Does it taste burnt? Have you tried any other administration methods to compare?

Your settings are rather low, so I don't think you burn it with the configuration.

Vaping with E-mesh is as smooth as the gvg if done right.

How does it look with the cap on in a dark room? Do you see a dark red glow? At what wattage does the mod stabilise when pressing the fire button.?
 
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#494 Posted : 4/27/2020 6:49:39 PM

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Maybe it's about time to stop comparing against a 20-yr old (broken/unrevised) GVG concept...

Diaporamas available here:

https:// www.flickr.com/photos/egzoset/
https:// photos.app.goo.gl/vYjgGjcaxkoEv2HD8
 
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#495 Posted : 4/27/2020 8:03:32 PM

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Egzoset wrote:
Maybe it's about time to stop comparing against a 20-yr old (broken/unrevised) GVG concept...

Diaporamas available here:

https:// www.flickr.com/photos/egzoset/
https:// photos.app.goo.gl/vYjgGjcaxkoEv2HD8


The gvg has been used as a reference for a reason, it has been one of the most effective and most used devices for vaping dmt crystals for a long time.

IMHO it is reasonable to compare other devices and setups to the gvg according to flavor, efficiency - amount dmt for bt, and possibility for 1 hit breakthrough.
 
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#496 Posted : 4/27/2020 8:10:50 PM

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Vandy vape mesh v2 - fitted mesh setup with glass.

I have done some experiments with extra glassware extensions on the tube, which seems to work well.

Outside the metal tube there is a replacement glass for smok v9 max tank. This glass is fitted on the outside of the tube, covering the top row of airflow holes, to avoid too much air.

On top of this glass, I have glued a 24/40 glass fitting.

It is not as stealthy with the glass gear, but a lot cooler vapor, and easy to handle in bed.
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#497 Posted : 4/28/2020 4:10:22 AM

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Doesnt really taste burnt, issue is im a noob and this is my first time of any method of administration as well as first time extracting lol. I had it set to glow lightly like in your video ill check where it stabilizes it, I brought a 510 glass attachment like you showed. Issue is normal ebay.com for the states doesnt have the mesh that you talked about, been difficult to find to make the fitted.
 
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#498 Posted : 4/28/2020 7:19:36 AM

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So at which wattage does it stabilise? It should not glow brightly. At all.
 
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#499 Posted : 4/28/2020 5:54:02 PM

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Propello wrote:
IMHO it is reasonable...


And IMO it is quite subjective just to assume it stops being the best once its concept has been continuously enhanced through many years of revision. Always sharing progress while inviting DUPLICATION & PEER REVIEWS in the process...


P.S.:

What's most frustrating with this present thread title is when each new entry causing yet another reference to the VaporGenie pipe to pop shall actually fail to be anything close to the VaporGenie at all, starting with heat vectors (the GVG is based on convective heat).
 
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#500 Posted : 4/29/2020 9:16:04 PM

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I find it logical to compare different administration methods to each other, efficiency, ease of use etc.

As you say, the gvg is old and also probably one of the most used devices for dmt over the years. Imho it makes a good reference for that very reason. It is also a pretty effective device.

I have altered the title to a shorter more precise one.

I welcome any suggestions to get the thread better in quality.

Blessings
 
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