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Vexor17
#1 Posted : 1/31/2020 9:17:49 PM

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Hello, I am planning my 1st DMT experience very soon and I have been doing as much planning and research as possible. i recently made some enhanced mullein leaf and I'm not sure if it took to the leaf properly as there is a residue on the bottom of the two containers I used. In one I dissolved 200MG in some 91% IPA and added 200MG leaf. This was in a small glass bowl about 2 inches diameter. The second i did the same mixture in a shot glass. They both are fully dry they seem but both have the residue in the bottom. I am not so much worried about losing some as I am not knowing the dose that I am taking(which should be about 60MG of product?) I just read "A starange DMT experience" post and that kinda scares the shit out of me with overdoing it on the measurements. Also of course I don't want to under do it either. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
 

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#2 Posted : 1/31/2020 9:56:24 PM

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I haven't found a way to not have any residue, so far.

What I do is swirl it around from time to time during evaporation, so there is only residue at the bottom, not on the sides.

You can weigh the resulting leaf, assume the missing weight is DMT, and know your dosage pretty well Smile

60mg of DMT is too much for almost anyone. 60mg of 1:1 leaf sounds more reasonable, so 30mg of DMT. People's breakthrough numbers that I've heard range from 25 to 45mg.

Given that you now have almost 400mg of leaf, you can afford to start low, say 50mg of leaf, and work your way to breakthrough.

 
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#3 Posted : 1/31/2020 11:26:53 PM

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Homo Trypens wrote:
I haven't found a way to not have any residue, so far.

What I do is swirl it around from time to time during evaporation, so there is only residue at the bottom, not on the sides.

You can weigh the resulting leaf, assume the missing weight is DMT, and know your dosage pretty well Smile

60mg of DMT is too much for almost anyone. 60mg of 1:1 leaf sounds more reasonable, so 30mg of DMT. People's breakthrough numbers that I've heard range from 25 to 45mg.

Given that you now have almost 400mg of leaf, you can afford to start low, say 50mg of leaf, and work your way to breakthrough.



Yes 60MG of the resulting leaf is what I meant. Yes I believe that with weighing the entire enhanced leaf is the best way to tell what I got. Thanks! Great idea. The main reason I am striving for breakthrough the 1st time isn't so much for the full effect but I'm kind of nervous about not getting all the way there and having sub trip anxiety or something. My last trip was about 4 or 5 years ago and I went way too far on some lemon tek fungi. Ive been kinda nervous since then even though I'm pretty experienced in hallucinogens. Not too nervous to do this though but it is in the back of my mind of course. I'm waiting for a day that I feel good about doing it. Thanks for the input! It has been helpful.
 
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#4 Posted : 2/1/2020 8:26:18 AM

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Vexor17 wrote:
Yes 60MG of the resulting leaf is what I meant.


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For me, mimosa extract is very welcoming and nice in sub breakthrough amounts.

If anxiety turns out to be a problem when you smoalk, consider adding harmalas into the mix. It sounds unintuitive - harmalas potentiate and prolong the spice - but they also slow things down and bring heavenly calmness.

When harmalas are inhaled vs. swallowed, dietary restrictions are much more relaxed. You still need to watch out for substance interactions though.

Safe and fruitful journeys!
 
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#5 Posted : 2/1/2020 9:25:18 AM

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Homo Trypens wrote:
Vexor17 wrote:
Yes 60MG of the resulting leaf is what I meant.


Thumbs up Just making sure Pleased

For me, mimosa extract is very welcoming and nice in sub breakthrough amounts.

If anxiety turns out to be a problem when you smoalk, consider adding harmalas into the mix. It sounds unintuitive - harmalas potentiate and prolong the spice - but they also slow things down and bring heavenly calmness.

When harmalas are inhaled vs. swallowed, dietary restrictions are much more relaxed. You still need to watch out for substance interactions though.

Safe and fruitful journeys!


Thanks. Yea I will have to read up more up on that. I believe I read it doesn't prolong it by that much. Stimulants and SSRIs are the only things that have real interactions right?
 
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#6 Posted : 2/1/2020 9:31:09 AM

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Well, I'm glad I read the interactions page because I take asthma medicines that MAOIs can interact with!
 
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#7 Posted : 2/1/2020 11:29:59 AM

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Well, then I'm glad you read it too!
If it is something you'd still like to pursue, ask your doctor about an asthma medicine compatible with RIMAs.

For me, changa vs. enhanced leaf is 2x-4x in duration, roughly 20-45 minutes vs. 5-15.
 
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Homo Trypens wrote:

For me, changa vs. enhanced leaf is 2x-4x in duration, roughly 20-45 minutes vs. 5-15.


Yep =) harmalas are so important. In my exp drinking a cup or two of Caapi before smoking changa is good.
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#9 Posted : 2/1/2020 3:11:47 PM
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91%+ isopropyl would always leave a light residue on the bottom of the dish ime. Very little, and the changa and/or e-leaf was plenty powerful.

I prefer 200% non denatured ethanol - great for dissolving dmt and especially harmalas. Not sure of the legality in other states/countries when it comes to this. So proceed with caution.
 
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#10 Posted : 2/8/2020 11:30:09 AM

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I would try to use some 99% Iso, or even better Everclear as it will dissolve harmalas better if you do ever decide to make changa. The trick with the residue is you want to use enough alcohol to allow it to fully saturate your herb, but not enough to be drowning it. This will allow more of the tincture to be absorbed instantly, rather than giving it a chance to slowly evaporate onto the container. There will always be a little bit of residue left behind and the weight lost will be very minimal. Just dissolve it again, toss in a bit more herb to make a small batch of "light" enhanced leaf , or just save that shot glass for the next batch you make.

Pro Tip: Assuming you are devoting a bong strictly to DMT smoalking, when it comes time to clean the bowl, save the Iso that you use to clean it to recycle the resin and make another batch of enhanced leaf. The resin is surprisingly potent so dont waste it 😎.
 
 
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