This is just a quick question to those of you more experienced. I have only taken DMT once and found my self in hyperspace with an entity for only a brief window before I was back. And it really seemed to feel like a reality that was always there, and in fact I carried a extremely odd sense of deja vu. (which is strange because i don't understand how the single most alien experience of my life could feel familiar but it did)

My question is, if you take enough to break through, but take more before just before you do, will hyper space flow/breathe/fractalise more intensely. Or will you simply reach a different pre-existing location?

Is your experience of hyperspace, once there, independent of your brain's current chemical composition?

With substances like LSD the more I take, the more my perception of reality shifts and changes and the more its subject to my current thinking.

Is DMT like this once in hyperspace, or does it act more as a gateway that you walk through. More of a your either there or your not sorta thing.

Thanks for that beautiful description (alien and dejavu.) One thing about this is that it can not be retained, it will be forgotten. And its such a beautiful thing, its like forgetting flowers exist, or the ocean exists, or the sun...but the fact of this forgetfulness is what it is, and probably is for the better.

You can go very deep. Beyond the beyond. You can reach places with no entities, places of total emptiness...of pure love where gratitude flows over the cosmos. So many planes, so many realms, so many forms of insight, so many forms of consciousness, so many forms of emptiness, so many forms of alienness, so many forms of intergalactic navigation, so many forms of sharing knowledge with interdimensional beings, so many forms of love between all beings, so many forms of being reborn, so many forms of experiencing nature, many forms of bliss, many forms of sound, many forms of No perception and no sensation, many form of perception and sensation; I say look out for the experience that comes on smooth yet fast, all in one single second, and where you finally land somewhere, and not go from here to there, but actually land somewhere firm where you are greeted by multitudes who had been awaiting you with gifts and flowers and the most amazing jewels and hyperdimensional objects which shine and shift and serenade

That was more beautiful of an answer than i could i have hoped for. I have had a feeling since i was a kid that maybe our society has got the idea of life and death wrong. Meaning maybe life is merely the forgetting of everything, and death is the remembering. If our true self is an infinite being of infinite perspective, than every life you could live is a single perspective out of these infinite possibilities.

Because DMT is just so DMT

The more you take, the more powerful it gets. DMT can be vaporized at doses way higher than what is necessary for a breakthrough. I would echo everything FranLover has said. Super doses can be very alluring, however, in my experience the integration thereafter of the experience can be a lot for the human brain. DMT is just a ton to reconcile no matter how experienced you become with the molecule, and this dynamic is amplified with higher doses.

One particularly enormous blast started and I knew it was going to be epic. I had been testing out a new vaporizer and pulled a hit big enough to just barely be able to take another hit, at which point I took a really, really, long and thick draw. Hyperspace went beyond hyperspace. There are many states of being beyond it actually. Much like with ayahuasca, there is always a higher level. The question of whether or not you should reach for these states of mind is similar to the conundrum presented in Jurassic Park (They were so preoccupied with whether or not they could make dinosaurs they never stopped to bother whether or not they should make dinosaurs, or however the movie quote goes.) Anyways, whereas DMT will usually start with the geometry and color, this one started by overlaying my entire visual field with a blinding white light. My sense of touch, taste, sound, and smell were all overridden with the sensation of seeing this white light. Then came all the colors. I then saw very clearly, yet obviously distorted with DMT visuals, all of my experiences with past lovers. Particularly, I relived moments of significance that shaped my moments of conviction with love, sex, empathy, ecstasy, pain, and sadness. I lived missed opportunities that never happened as well. This all might have had something to do with choosing my bed as the location. I was flying through all of my intimate experiences that did or did not happen with more ferociousness and intensity than DMT had ever given me before. I was able to relive moments of lying around in bed with lovers, having pillow talk, developing a wonderful connection. I was able to see where I was good at that, where I wasn't, and why it's important to let that stuff go. When this phase of the trip ended... I was back in the waves of DMT dimensions beyond this reflection of moments of intimacy. Geometry, colors, lights, immediately erupting omnipotent astonishment as the circuitry of my brain connected in ways that could never be imagined. The first part of the trip seemed so long, but this next one? I don't know, it had to be a novel compared to the first stop. It was just so beyond. When I did finally come to, I was having a conversation with a girl again who slowly disappeared as I was able to make out my physical surroundings in my bedroom through a million layered lenses of DMT. She faded as my reality became more real and I forgot what I was saying to her. Did this event last an eternity in my head? Where and who was I after that experience? I had so many questions. All of the building blocks of being that make up this body, mind, and soul had been very lazily and haphazardly thrown back together. Everything that must work like a well oiled machine to get up and go to work every day, come home, make food, understand humor, or sit still was broken. Why had I just now realized how long I had been withdrawn from wanting or having relationships? Who on earth am I? I do know for sure that I was certifiably insane for a while. Keeping the charade going that I was sane for my family, job, and friends was an enormous amount of work for at least 2 months. I would not wish that psychosis on anyone, (except for my first boss he deserves it). I just can't find the words to describe the absurdity of that integration period that had to have been like 2 months, and then, for the longest time I actually just FORGOT that I had been crazy. This experience did get a lot of gears turning in my head that forced my hand into very creative, yet difficult feats of productivity that have benefited my life since. And I am now way better than I ever was before, but it was just so much to handle.

With DMT, you submit yourself to the experience and you get what you get.

Hey Dan, as mentioned already you will get a more intense experience But I have found there is an upward limit. At some point, things are just as weird as they can be, and I think that's because at some point all your brain receptors are saturated.

No one knows what these hyperspace dimensions are. Many people think these are truly out of body experiences, and many people think you're just getting high.

All we can say for sure that it's really showing us is how fragile our perceptions of reality truly are. People take this to mean they have access to another more "real" reality. I think that's a leap. What I take from it is the fragility of my senses and the ephemeral almost ethereal qualities of consciousness.

As mentioned, be careful with super high doses. DMT is physically safe but people who have been doing this for years still get sat the !&#% down.

And if DMT teaches us anything, it's not to always believe what your senses tell you- but that doesnt mean its showing us something more real than real.

Great simili
And very glad you rode the storm out and came through.



Thats beautiful.
In my experience, hyperspace is remembering everything. I have no doubt in my mind at all. There is a knowledge which can only be grasped with the shedding of our humanness--following this thought, allow me to share a buddhist text with you:

A meditator -- not attending to the perception [mental note] of village, not attending to the perception of human being -- attends to the singleness based on the perception of wilderness.

"One's mind takes pleasure, finds satisfaction, settles, and indulges in its perception of wilderness. "One discerns that 'Whatever disturbances that would exist based on the perception of village are not present. Whatever disturbances that would exist based on the perception of human being are not present. There is only this modicum of disturbance: the singleness based on the perception of wilderness.'

"One discerns that, 'This mode of perception is empty of the perception of village. This mode of perception is empty of the perception of human being. There is only this non-emptiness: the singleness based on the perception of wilderness.' Thus, one regards it as empty of whatever is not there. Whatever remains, one discerns as present, 'There is this.' And so this, one's entry into emptiness, accords with actuality (reality), is undistorted in meaning, and pure.

Further, Ananda, the meditator -- not attending to the perception of human being, not attending to the perception of wilderness -- attends to the singleness based on the perception of earth. One's mind takes pleasure, finds satisfaction, settles, and indulges in its perception of earth.

"Just as a bull's hide is stretched free of wrinkles with a hundred supporting stakes, even so -- without attending to all of the ridges and hollows, the river ravines, the tracts of stumps and thorns, the craggy irregularities of this earth -- one attends to the singleness based on the perception of earth. One's mind takes pleasure, finds satisfaction, settles, and indulges in its perception of earth.

"One discerns that, 'Whatever disturbances that would exist based on the perception of human being are not present. Whatever disturbances that would exist based on the perception of wilderness are not present. There is only this modicum of disturbance, the singleness based on the perception of earth.'

One discerns that, 'This mode of perception is empty of the perception of human being. This mode of perception is empty of the perception of wilderness. There is only this non-emptiness, the singleness based on the perception of earth.' Thus, one regards it as empty of whatever is not there. Whatever remains, one discerns as present, 'There is this.' And so this, one's entry into emptiness, accords with actuality, is undistorted in meaning, and pure.

Further, Ananda, the meditator -- not attending to the perception of wilderness, not attending to the perception of earth -- attends to the singleness based on the perception of the dimension of the boundlessness of space. One's mind takes pleasure, finds satisfaction, settles, and indulges in its perception of the dimension of the infinitude of space.

"One discerns that, 'Whatever disturbances that would exist based on the perception of wilderness are not present. Whatever disturbances that would exist based on the perception of earth are not present. There is only this modicum of disturbance, the singleness based on the perception of the dimension of the boundlessness of space.'

One discerns that, 'This mode of perception is empty of the perception of wilderness. This mode of perception is empty of the perception of earth. There is only this non-emptiness, the singleness based on the perception of the dimension of the boundlessness of space.' Thus, one regards it as empty of whatever is not there. Whatever remains, one discerns as present, 'There is this.' And so this, one's entry into emptiness, accords with actuality, is undistorted in meaning, and pure.

Further, Ananda, the meditator -- not attending to the perception of wilderness, not attending to the perception of earth -- attends to the singleness based on the perception of the dimension of the boundlessness of space. One's mind takes pleasure, finds satisfaction, settles, and indulges in its perception of the dimension of the infinitude of space.

"One discerns that, 'Whatever disturbances that would exist based on the perception of wilderness are not present. Whatever disturbances that would exist based on the perception of earth are not present. There is only this modicum of disturbance, the singleness based on the perception of the dimension of the boundlessness of space.'

One discerns that, 'This mode of perception is empty of the perception of wilderness. This mode of perception is empty of the perception of earth. There is only this non-emptiness, the singleness based on the perception of the dimension of the boundlessness of space.' Thus, one regards it as empty of whatever is not there. Whatever remains, one discerns as present, 'There is this.' And so this, one's entry into emptiness, accords with actuality, is undistorted in meaning, and pure.

Further, Ananda, the meditator -- not attending to the perception of earth, not attending to the perception of the dimension of the boundlessness of space -- attends to the singleness based on the perception of the dimension of the boundlessness of consciousness.

One's mind takes pleasure, finds satisfaction, settles, and indulges in its perception of the dimension of the boundlessness of consciousness.

"One discerns that, 'Whatever disturbances that would exist based on the perception of earth are not present. Whatever disturbances that would exist based on the perception of the dimension of the boundlessness of space are not present. There is only this modicum of disturbance, the singleness based on the perception of the dimension of the boundlessness of consciousness.'

"One discerns that, 'This mode of perception is empty of the perception of earth. This mode of perception is empty of the perception of the dimension of the boundlessness of space. There is only this non-emptiness, the singleness based on the perception of the dimension of the boundlessness of consciousness.'

"Thus, one regards it as empty of whatever is not there. Whatever remains, one discerns as present, 'There is this.' And so this, one's entry into emptiness, accords with actuality, is undistorted in meaning, and pure.


"Further, Ananda, the meditator -- not attending to the perception of the dimension of the boundlessness of space, not attending to the perception of the dimension of the boundlessness of consciousness -- attends to the singleness based on the perception of the dimension of nothingness.

"One's mind takes pleasure, finds satisfaction, settles, and indulges in its perception of the dimension of nothingness.

"One discerns that, 'Whatever disturbances that would exist based on the perception of the dimension of the boundlessness of space are not present. Whatever disturbances that would exist based on the perception of the dimension of the boundlessness of consciousness are not present.

"'There is only this modicum of disturbance, the singleness based on the perception of the dimension of nothingness.' "One discerns that, 'This mode of perception is empty of the perception of the dimension of the boundlessness of space.

"This mode of perception is empty of the perception of the dimension of the boundlessness of consciousness. There is only this non-emptiness, the singleness based on the perception of the dimension of nothingness.'

"Thus, one regards it as empty of whatever is not there. Whatever remains, one discerns as present, 'There is this.' And so this, one's entry into emptiness, accords with actuality, is undistorted in meaning, and pure.


"Further, Ananda, the meditator -- not attending to the perception of the dimension of the boundlessness of consciousness, not attending to the perception of the dimension of nothingness -- attends to the singleness based on the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception.

"One's mind takes pleasure, finds satisfaction, settles, and indulges in the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception.

"One discerns that, 'Whatever disturbances that would exist based on the perception of the dimension of the boundlessness of consciousness are not present. Whatever disturbances that would exist based on the perception of the dimension of nothingness are not present.

"There is only this modicum of disturbance, the singleness based on the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception.'

"One discerns that, 'This mode of perception is empty of the perception of the dimension of the boundlessness of consciousness. This mode of perception is empty of the perception of the dimension of nothingness.

"There is only this non-emptiness, the singleness based on the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception.' Thus, one regards it as empty of whatever is not there. Whatever remains, one discerns as present, 'There is this.' And so this, one's entry into emptiness, accords with actuality, is undistorted in meaning, and pure.


"Further, Ananda, the meditator -- not attending to the perception of the dimension of nothingness, not attending to the perception of the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception -- attends to the singleness [onepointedness of mind] based on the signless concentration of awareness.

"One's mind [heart] takes pleasure, finds satisfaction, settles, and indulges in its signless concentration of awareness.

"One discerns that, 'Whatever disturbances that would exist based on the perception of the dimension of nothingness are not present. Whatever disturbances that would exist based on the perception of the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception are not present.

"And there is only this modicum of disturbance, [stimuli] connected with the six sensory spheres, dependent on this very body with life as its condition.' One discerns that, 'This mode of perception is empty of the perception of the dimension of nothingness. This mode of perception is empty of the perception of the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception.

"There is only this non-emptiness, [stimuli] connected with the six sensory spheres, dependent on this very body with life as its condition.' Thus, one regards it as empty of whatever is not there. Whatever remains, one discerns as present, 'There is this.' And so this, one's entry into emptiness, accords with actuality, is undistorted in meaning, and pure.


"Further, Ananda, the meditator -- not attending to the perception of the dimension of nothingness, not attending to the perception of the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception -- attends to the singleness based on the signless concentration of awareness.

"One's mind takes pleasure, finds satisfaction, settles, and indulges in its signless concentration of awareness.

"One discerns that, 'This signless concentration of awareness is fabricated and mentally fashioned.' And one discerns that, 'Whatever is fabricated and mentally fashioned is inconstant and subject to cessation.'

"For one -- thus knowing, thus seeing -- the mind [heart] is released from the effluent [obstacle, defilement, bond] of sensual craving, the effluent of becoming, the effluent of ignorance. With release, there is the knowledge, 'Released.' One discerns that, 'Rebirth is ended, the supreme life fulfilled, the task done. There is nothing further for this world.'

"One discerns that, 'Whatever disturbances that would exist based on the effluent of sensual craving...the effluent of becoming...the effluent of ignorance are not present. And there is only this modicum of disturbance, [stimuli] connected with the six sensory spheres, dependent on this very body with life as its condition.'

"One discerns that, 'This mode of perception is empty of the effluent of sensual craving...becoming...ignorance. And there is just this non-emptiness, [stimuli] connected with the six sensory spheres, dependent on this very body with life as its condition.'

"Thus, one regards it as empty of whatever is not there. Whatever remains, one discerns as present, 'There is this.' And so this, one's entry into emptiness, accords with actuality, is undistorted in meaning, pure -- superior and unsurpassed.


"Ananda, whatever wandering ascetics and temple-bound priests (shramans and Brahmins) who in the past entered [upon] and remained in an emptiness that was pure, superior, and unsurpassed, they all entered and remained in this very same emptiness that is pure, superior, and unsurpassed.

"Whatever wandering ascetics and temple-bound priests who in the future will enter and remain in an emptiness that will be pure, superior, and unsurpassed, they all will enter and remain in this very same emptiness that is pure, superior, and unsurpassed.

"Whatever wandering ascetics and temple-bound priests who at present enter and remain in an emptiness that is pure, superior, and unsurpassed, they all enter and remain in this very same emptiness that is pure, superior, and unsurpassed.

"Therefore, Ananda, train yourselves: 'We will enter and remain in the emptiness that is pure, superior, and unsurpassed.'"

That is what the Blessed One said. Gratified, Ven. Ananda delighted in the Blessed One's words.

I dont think it could be explained any better than this <3