I dont want to brag because these substances tend to want to show us 'wrong' hehe, but:

I've never had a bad experience on dmt.. Its always incredibly amazing, profound, mysterious, beautiful, and plenty of other words that anyways dont make justice..

Also, as said, one needs to detach from these 'good and bad' classifications, it goes way beyond.. for example, if one has visions of skulls and bones or whatever, for some it may be a horror trip, but not for me, I just take it as it is, its us that give the emotional attachment to it, so its in our powers to feel good or bad about it.. Just let go and let the force flow

(though its important to note that I always take a general set and setting care, but am definitely not super picky or obsessive, one just needs general good sense, and reasonable frequency of use, and take it all with a good attitude, imo)

thats just it endless.. when i am faced with visions of some unspeakable horror pulsating and flashing and flailing at me in all its 4d splender insinuating with its twisting and twirling that it intended to eat me up into its endlessness inside... why i just smile and think of love, holding someone i care about, happiness, the sunshine and blue skies and clouds and the green in the leaves of the endless trees laid out so perfectly under that huge sky.. i think this is nothing new its nothing that will harm me, i think youv been through this many times you are always okay and will always be okay.. i think that its all me.. and at that time the unspeakable..thing.. gets a wide chesire smile and starts DANCING!
dmt is funny as hell.. to think of it of scary? well there was a time but i cant imagine it scaring me again and i have no fear saying that

I have had some extreme terror rides on foolish doses of shrooms. I hope I never ever have to repeat that again. I dont think that I could even have a voyage like that on DMT. I do have some anxiety from time to time with DMT but that quickly dissapates as the journey gets underway. Even the most terrorizing images I encounter on DMT dont bring about a feeling of fear. Shrooms have the ability to bring out a feeling of impending doom in me. A feeling that says I am going to succumb at any moment and expire. Its happened a few times when I take large doses or take shrooms with THH. So I've given up on that and only take smaller doses. I'm getting too old for the stress that dosing like that causes. My wife isn't cool with that anymore either.

One of the things I like to make sure I always have when I voyage is music that has a consistent and constant drum beat even if its soft. For whatever reason a good steady drum beat kinda keeps me in sync, it's kinda like a seat belt buckled. A good steady beat keeps me from flying out of the vehicle? Some good tribal sounds, icarus..... My voyages without the beat are not as enjoyable. I guess the sounds are an integral part of set and setting for me. I like the beat to begin before the voyage begins. I can kind of focus on it and follow it, get my heart and mind in sync with it and once the scenery arrives . . . . . its a match made in heaven.
lol

Glancing to his right and realizing he's not alone, follows suit in raising his hand as well.

Peace!
-idt

In my travels through the past few years...it seemed to take a direction for the worse. I seemed to slowly be not welcome anymore, and the journeys were moot and it was as if i was being ignored, given the hint "go away, nothing left to show you, you fail" kind of vibe, lol.

I haven't taken the spice in many moons, as the last time i sessioned, they would NOT let me out of the trip until i consciously agreed to never return. This to me...leaves me very timid about attempting to go back. I'm not sure if it was just what was happening in my life at the time that they were telling me it wasn't a good idea to visit, or if they really meant "hit the door...don't look back".

I recall my last trip, was full of stop signs, and angry entity's up in my face yelling at me, telling me to promise to not come back. Of course me being me, i did try again later, and i was confronted with an office full of cubicles..and the only communication i received was "you live, you die, that's it". then it was over as quickly as it began.

I have the yearning to journey fourth...i wish the trips were like they were when i first discovered the other side..maybe one day.

If -

Good time = Love & euphoria etc ...
Bad time = Fear & discomfort etc ...

Then the answer is no. I am not always gonna have a 'good time'. But that's perfectly OK.
I feel that the experience is the unveiling of a landscape of consciousness.
I'm part of that landscape and 'I' am not all good or all bad.
There's work to be done- both there and here.
Over there is the source of 'good & bad'.
And here I am the result.
Fun-house mirrors?
Maybe ...

Hello,

For me, it comes in waves (over days/weeks/months) of beauty or ugliness, brilliance or stupidity, delight or terror, strength or illness, good or bad, transcendent or rough . Completely unpredictable. Yet, there is always, always, always a lesson of some sort imparted . . .The lessons are ongoing and becoming more challenging. I am a female Psyiphys (sp), the character pushing the rock up the hill one step as he takes two steps back.

Would any true seeker really want to have "reliably good experiences w/DMT?" I suspect not, but perhaps I am too far gone into my own trip. I believe that people on a path of discovery are willing to take risks and face challenges. In my mind reliability equates with "getting high." If this is what I want, I will try cocaine or heroin, or perhaps (more realistically) take a dose of MDMA. The lack of predictability is one of the things I LOVE about DMT. Being a middle-aged fart, I revel in novelty, even when it scares me!

Peace & Love,
Pandora

-WS
-endlessness

well said.

Personally, new to spice still, swim gets very strong sense of shame for some reason. When it comes on, everything in the room, gives him a strong sense of anxiety as if he is doing something terribly stupid/wrong. Was never raised in a house where drugs were very frowned upon or anything. Yet, such an uncomfortable feeling of doing something wrong and very unintelligent, so embarassing. Like they way one would feel masturbating in front of their family/friends and saying REALLY dumb things. ugh

Other than that, as trip sets on swim forgets about it completely and is beyond amazed of new reality.

Try closing your eyes!!!

Seriously, that is where the full on landscape is!



WS

[quote=Otiliya] -WS


Hi Otiliya,

Though it's only about one minute in consensual reality time, this build up to the breakthrough is where some deep psychological work has taken place for me personally. For my first few spice trips, the fiery, painful fact of my mother's, grandmother's and cat's deaths (though over 20 years past and worked through) would slam through my mind over and over. "My mother is dead . . ." and everything one would expect to come with that.

Later, this one minute became a good time to do some ongoing work on my own deep personal issues and to help open up a well of creativity.

As time progressed, I used this minute to consider my deep (un)acknowledged feelings about the people in my life whom I love. I came out of this series of experiences with a tremendous increase in my respect for them, be they formally educated or not.

Now, this minute is problematic for me but I am in a deep learning phase and it is not easy or pain-free.

I admire you for admitting the strong shame feelings. Use your integration time in consensual reality to work on this. I am no therapist but perhaps just by thinking about it and getting in touch with the feelings you might be able to see what the root cause(s) is/are. Again, just speaking from one person's crazy personal experience, but I really admired your honesty.

Peace & Love,
Pandora

I might add my point of view. Except for the lighter ones, all my trips are painful. Not in the physical sense, but in the emotional and mystical senses. Either smoked spice (as changa) or strong Aya, I know it was a good trip if I got scars out of it. As it may be implied I do not equate the emotional pain with good or bad trips, it does not work that way for me. A real open contemplation with that "otherness beyond" shakes my deepest foundations and I feel it of uttermost value.

A corollary of this point of view is that I know I did not have enough if I'm just "strolling around" in that elf space land.

To put you into perspective, during one of the last blast offs, I forgot even my name. No kidding! In that mercifully short period "Reality" ceased to make sense as a concept. My mind was being squeezed like an orange, and that really does not feel nice, to put it mildly. It was nonetheless one of the landmarks of my own existence.

I've been pharming once a week for a few months and so far each trip has been profound and deep with drastic lasting effects on my thought processes. I am able to think clearer and more sharply in all that I do. I feel that my mental landscape has been broadened and the molecule has given me a new perspective on life. While some of my oral DMT trips have had truly strange and completely fucked up moments, none of them were negative. They were wacky as fuck but never scary. It always felt as if there was a gentle and wise clown in charge.

For SWIM, that clown is the personality of DMT. For SWIM, there’s something very clown-like in the DMT experience when taken without harmala alkaloids. It’s kind and yet very freaky, funny and sometimes completely ridiculous, but then serious at the same time. If SWIM was to paint DMT as a person, it would be a wild clown, with a huge smile on his face, very colorful clothes, wacky hair, and a slightly creepy look in his eyes. He’d be a very wise clown, but also a trickster. One who likes to play mind game with you to teach you things, and sometimes just have fun toying with you.

But 5-MeO-DMT, is like an alien skeleton clown, far more freaky, the type of clown that gives children nightmares. This clown enjoys messing with you, but is also very wise, and is an expert in things like infinity, timelessness, etc., and loves to freak you out by showing you things you cannot comprehend. He’s not gentle at all, but very blunt. This clown doesn’t smile, but has a painted smile on his face. He wears only black and white clothes.

LSD would be a mad scientist always on the verge of inventing perpetual motion, but never getting there.

Mescaline would be an ancient wise Native American Indian Warrior who is also a shaman. A very friendly, but very powerful man. One who is fearless, brave, and very wise is the spiritual real. Not at all a trickster or a clown. This guy is very serious, but also full of passion.

Very nicely put Ron. Though it does seem more and more everyday 5meo is out of the question. He sounds like the most evil clown of them all!

Ron, would you care to start a separate thread describing the personalities of all the substances SWIY has encountered?

69ron what personality would you attach to magic mushrooms ?