Wow, holy shit. That was fucking insane.

I smoked 45 mg harmala freebase in a rolled cigarette. Followed by 45 mg dmt (in one toke held for 20 seconds) in my glass vapor genie.

My entire reality broke apart in front of my eyes. The pipe broke, I broke, my whole world fragmented into the most alien like pieces you could ever imagine. It was terrifying. I was sure it was permanent.

This was the strongest, most intense experience I've had with the spice thus far. I'm sure my words could never really do justice to what the experience was really like.

Things slowly came back together, but I will never be the same again.

I get goosebumpS!!!!

And there it is

Been there lol... in your head you feel like it will never end... right about the time you accept it it ends

Dude! This is crazy! You smoalked that much of dmt after harmala via gvg? I remember 30mg almost blacked me out for half an hour(no harmala). It was INTENSE! Can`t imagine what would 45mg do for me. Are you sure your vaping technique is ok?

Yep-- that sounds about right

Yes, I am vaping correctly. I've got IMHO the absolute best pipe for administration of spice, and have been practicing extensively this last month or so. Lately I smoalk every night, sometimes more than once. Going through a honeymoon phase with the molecule, it would seem. Depending on how I'm feeling at the moment, I load anywhere from 35 to 50 mg. 50 is always a strong breakthrough, but never EVER anything like this.

Often I cannot remember my higher dose trips very well. If I live to be 100 I will never forget this one.

I don`t know man... I think you need to improve your technique. Speaking from my own experience. In the past I also had to take same amount. But reading feedbacks from other forum members I had a feeling something is off. So, long story short, eventually I figured out how to do this and now I need just 25-28mg of spice for a full blown breakthrough.

Like someone said to me, when I described my similar experience: "looks like another one has popped out of the matrix"

That's the main reason I always recommend to stick to the lower doses, because not everybody might be ready for it, at least I wasn't. But then what can get you ready for this, I don't even know.

Couple of questions:

1) Was it hyper-real, more real than anything you have experienced before?
2) No come up, no warmup, just BAM and you are there - was it like this?

With Changa I have done up to 100mg with Harmalas.. But when I work I work many hours and eventually becomes very comfortable with the medicine.. Smoking with ease.. Holding vapor up to 30sec without any stress.. etc etc

Remember: When your mouth and hands has dissolved into the blackness that the bright lit room now has changed into, the music has transformed into a single high pitch sound.. and the connections that operating the blowing out muscles has collapsed... Then its time to blow out!

NOTHING could have prepared me for this. It was unlike anything I've ever experienced even with this molecule. Total wild card.

1- Yes.

2- Correct. Still had the pipe and torch in my hands till it all broke apart like some crazy alien puzzle.

Even though I'm a billion light-years away, I am thinking Tony's technique is at least adequate...

Yes, it is cool to see reality disintegrate before your eyes.

You can`t compare changa to vaping via gvg. Since change is burning there is more waste of dmt. I also smoked that much in changa.


Yes, it is. What I`m saying is why to waste so much stuff(well, you can if in your possession hefty amount of spice to work with) especially in such an effective device in terms of dosage like gvg?
So, long story short... Personally I`ll think twice before loading even 30mg into gvg. Too intense and so fast that I barely can put the pipe aside. Plus there is a higher chance to get hyperslap. Thanks, but no)) Been there and don`t want anymore...

I would love to hear more details about this experience if/once you feel like you can put any of it into words. I can imagine needing ample integration time for something like this.

That vapor genie was broken. Snapped in two. I heard it, I felt it. It was realer than anything. I looked over at Her with what must have been a shocked look, and she asked me if I was okay... Then her image froze as if I was looking at a photo of her, and she... She came apart like pieces of a 3D puzzle. I don't know how else to say. A puzzle from another dimension.

I am doing my best to integrate the experience. This trip has given me a whole new respect for how powerful this substance is.

But IS the vapor genie ok!? 😉

I was pleasantly surprised to find myself holding it, still intact. I was sure it was broken. It hasn't seen much action since that night though. Definitely this has put a pause to my routine of a nightly smoalk.

Nice

Those realistic “pipe snapping” visions are the most bizarre IMO.... is it working? Things look the same... wait, where did my door go?? Is this the drug??? **all hell breaks loose**