I have been using GordoTek for a good bit and I noticed some very positive benefits to
pure DMT over Jungle Spice. I should say at the onset that I am one that likes to
explore these substances in depth and I have done many DMT trips. However, most came from the same source. It was yellow and I had many positive life altering experiences using it. I'm assuming it was spice and containing more alkaloids than DMT alone. But, as most report with DMT the come ups were very rough. I can only imagine the rough come ups turn many people off from the experience. I tried one other darker yellow spice and had a wonderful breakthrough that aided in ending my dependence on opioids. It gave me the resolve and motivation. But again the come up was rough, even for me. I have always assumed this is, without the benefit of an mao inhibitor, just part of the experience. Arguably a positive one in that maybe DMT should have a level of...difficulty or discomfort to keep people away who are not prepared.

Using GordoTEK I have finally had a chance to experiment with pure DMT. I immediately noticed that the come up was not nearly as rough even at breakthrough doses. In fact it's been a pleasant experience. This contradicts other reports so I thought it was a subjective effect. Like eating your own home grown vegetables and them seemingly tasting better. But this experience has been very consistent. But still I couldn't be sure it wasn't just me getting used to that part of the experience or something psychological. Would love to hear other peoples experiences.

I recently turned on two other experienced psychonauts. One had done DMT from the same prior yellow batch I had used. The other had never done DMT. I want to reiterate here that in general I turn very few people on. In fact over 4 years it's been only one other person other than the two mentioned here. As much as you may feel the whole world needs to experience what you have. In reality this simply doesn't work and isn't true. So I am VERY careful with whom I chose to share it with. One of these two people is someone who I have done other psychedelics trips with for over 35+ years. He is my best friend since the sandbox So I was very comfortable with him doing it.

Both using white DMT I made using GordoTEK had extremely easy come ups leading in both cases to a true breakthrough experience. Both had very positive experiences. My good friend had loved his prior trips on jungle spice but the come up made him nervous from trying again until now 2 years later. In the case of using this pure DMT Both reported tingles, warm feelings, floating feelings leading up to entering hyperspace and then euphoria before and during their breakthrough. There has been thus far zero rough rides on the come up which is exactly what I have experienced. I gave them no prior knowledge to my suspicion that this DMT was more mellow on the come up. I gave the person new to DMT a warning on how the come ups can be rough for the first few minutes. She actually said "This feels nice" during the come up right after the 3rd hit. Both during their breakthroughs simple said "Oh my God Oh my God" over and over followed in one by laughter and the other in tears of joy.

So what gives? I have not to my knowledge had 5meo but I have a feeling some may have been present in small amounts in the prior sources I tried. But this is only a hunch. DMT never stops surprising me so take this report with a grain of salt. People have very different experiences often. And these experiences reported above may be simply coincidence.

I want to add that there is something... special about making the medicine yourself. For obvious reasons such as purity etc. But also it adds a layer of...being special in that you crafted it. I will never forget my first breakthrough on my own DMT. I am very grateful to Gordo and others that took the time to share their TEK and also their experiences and opinions, both good and bad. I think it's important we dont idolize DMT. Negative reports or opinions on how it should be done or not done are equally important as the positive ones. For me personally this substance has been something that has improved my life more than I can express. It has made me a better human being and allowed me to get to know myself on a level i never knew existed. It is a tool. A very powerful one. But thats my experience. It doesn't work like this for everyone, were complex beings with vastly different life experiences and emotions. Our subconscious full of vastly different memories etc. Some people have very spiritually void trips using DMT alone.

I am really looking forward to trying Pharmahuasca & Pharmachanga and exploring the differences to DMT alone. I have had Changa once before but only a light dose. My only worry is it gave me a decent long lasting headache. So i'll be testing harmalas in various doses before I go for it. It may be that I am simply unable to take MAOI's. Any advice on how I may avoid the headache would be greatly appreciated.

If your using someones TEK and they have a patreon or accept donations, send them some love! Gordos patreon has been a wealth of information for me with more to explore!

Good to hear you are having more pleasant experiences now with the molecule

As for other alkaloids it depends on what you were extracting from ? Most commonly extracted sources contain no significant amount of alkaloids other than DMT or a DMT/NMT mix.

Thanks I wasn't sure about that was just about to look it up. To be clear the other DMT I did with the harsher come ups I did not make. Just another example of why it's good to make your own. I have really no idea what it contained other than DMT. For whatever reason come ups are now very pleasant! i'm using MHRB now. Next I want to try some of the more local more sustainable options.

It sounds to me like it's an easier/smoother come up because the dmt you have is actually not as pure as you think.

If you are thinking it is more pure just bc it is white xtal vs yellow xtal, well that logic is just plain incorrect. Dmt is polymorphic.

What we do know, is that white xtals can sometimes have over 50% nmt content, thus making them impure and less potent. However, I am not familiar with gordoteks nmt yield. Maybe I'll go check it out.


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