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Using 69Rons cactus tek to produce mescaline acetate - what yeilds are you guys getting ? Layout suggestion Type of cacti used(torch, pedro, achuma, etc...) ? Was just the dark green outer layer used ? Starting amount of cacti in grams ? Final Amount of product ? Was it washed ? % Timeframe taken for extraction Thanks. antrocles wrote:...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...
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swim got her cacti from compra-segura.com.it was like flour. using semi-toxic tek (swim used toluene instead of limonene), she got 1,2% yield of yellow crystals. no wash was performed. last time swim made an extraction from 150g san pedro mixed with 30g CaOH and got very small yield , about 0.8 %. same cactus, same tek, possibly wrong CaOH : Cacti ratio. all my posts are random generated and can not be evaluated as distinct ideas Evening Glory wrote:This is a medicine, remember, not some video you can watch inside your head.
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I used 65 grams of dried san pedro green outer flesh followed the tek step by step over a 2 day period came out with 700 mg of mesc acetate sticky waxy substance I also combined all my used limeone, left to soak over night in vinegar with random shaking and mixing and did 1 vinegar pull on that also which after evap added another 200mg although this product was far more darker, oily and stickier than the original pulls? no wash was done I tested the initial substance and activity was noticed @ 100mg, slight euphoria and quite a body load, rushes all rather nice. no psychedelic thought vehicles were noticed at this dosage but one could feel just how powerful this substance could be at higher dosage. ambi lysergance is a fictional character who in the realms of fantasy indulges in such topics as science, arts and psychoactive plant induced visions
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Type of cacti used: San Pedro Was just the dark green outer layer used: No. The woody core was removed, but the white stuff between the core and the green flesh was also used. Starting amount of cacti in grams: 90 g Final Amount of product: 1.801 g Was it washed: No % yield: 2% Timeframe taken for extraction: 4-5 days Other notes: The final products ranged in color from dark brown to light tan. They were quite impure - 250 mg with 3 datura seeds was barely noticeable (possibly inactive - can't say for sure). 800 mg on its own was quite powerful, though (maybe a little too strong). FWIW, the cactus powder used for this extraction was strong on it's own - putting 30 g in capsules and taking with panax ginger extract gave a very nice, smooth ~10 hour trip with no nausea. Can't remember if SWIM used lime or NaOH. SWIM definitely does remember losing limonene in the cactus sludge, though. I think it was over 100 mL that got "stuck" in the cactus sludge and could not be retrieved no matter what. SWIM gave the limonene-base-cactus-water mix at least two days with lots of mixing to react, but when swim did A/B with the leftover cactus sludge there was still some mescaline in it. All in all I think it's a great tek for beginners - it's hard to mess up, yields viable products, and safe - but it doesn't seem as thorough as A/B. A bigger (read: wider diameter) french press would have helped. benzyme wrote:
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if i were to extract mescaline would this process work okay? i dont like filtering out plant matter and i want a clean product so i think this may work best for me also i already have all this stuff laying around : stb extract on peruvian torch with NaOH and water as the base and xylene as the solvent pull 3 times acidify with vinegar discard xylene basify the aqueous solution with NaOH pull freebase mesc with xylene i dont see why this would not work "I'm creeping back to life, my nervous system all awry, I'm wearing the inside out. Look at him now, he's paler somehow, but he's coming round. He's starting to choke It's been so long since he spoke, well he can have the words right from my mouth. And with these words I can see, clear through the clouds that covered me, Just give it time then speak my name. now we can hear ourselves again" Pink Floyd- Wearing the Inside Out
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The dark green layer + about a 10-20mm of white flesh from a large san pedro (Cactus was harvested in late summer) was used for both extractions.
Extraction A yielded ~2% of a waxy extract that ranged in colour from light amber/orange to dark brown. This extract was active at something like 400mg and thus was probably rather impure. No wash was done. This was my first ever extraction and was completed from dried cactus to consumption in ~12hrs.
Extraction B was more thorough and much more time was taken with filtering, drying and soaking. This time the yield was only slightly over 1% but 250mg of the more waxy, lighter coloured part of the extract (again there was variation between pulls from light to dark and from waxy to gooey) proved quite strong so the purity was probably better. Again no wash was done.
In both instances there was some product lost to the drying pans, maybe as much as .5%.
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Posts: 147 Joined: 04-Jul-2010 Last visit: 26-May-2015 Location: Canada
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Peruvian Torch
dark green + inner white flesh
300g
Pull 1: 3.9g
Pull 2: 1.9g
Pull 3: 0.5g
Pull 4: TBA/Don't expect it to be worth it
Impure orange-amber-tan-white powder, some of it is quite white. Most is tan. Some in orange-brown.
minimal residue is black/green ooze. This wasn't saved, but rather consumed with coffee when cleaning evap pan. Hoping Pull 3&4 maintain sexy consistency as a result.
2.1% at the moment, More to come?
First pull = about 1 week of cactus sitting in limonene, other pulls= 1-2 days sitting in limonene. This was a leisurely extraction, while not legally beneficial if this house was raided .. it was the most convenient to just take some time for chemistry whenever it was available.
It looks yummy. Bioassay of evaporation pan residue resulted in a pleasant body buzz with minor enhancements of colour. Sub-psychedelic.
Not sure about tan crystals, but it looks exactly the same as a 0.5g capsule of the stuff from an earlier extraction, which has been bioassayed as mescaline.
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Took two days.
Started with 100g dried outer flesh for each cactus.
Peruvian torch ~1% tan wax. Worked REALLY well with no further cleanup.
San Pedro ~2% deep brown goo. further purification resulted in ~0.4% whiteish HCl salt. Haven't tried it yet.
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San Pedro 250g Green outer flesh Final Yield: 2.1g Mescaline HCL Unwashed .84% Yield Cactus soaked in Limo for 5 days before first pull and then two more days before the second. Product to be tested monday. Previous batches have shown 400-600mg to be VERY active. All statements made by Once have no basis in reality, if reality even exists.
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Rennasauce Man
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mogascreeta wrote:if i were to extract mescaline would this process work okay? i dont like filtering out plant matter and i want a clean product so i think this may work best for me also i already have all this stuff laying around :
stb extract on peruvian torch with NaOH and water as the base and xylene as the solvent
pull 3 times
acidify with vinegar
discard xylene
basify the aqueous solution with NaOH
pull freebase mesc with xylene
i dont see why this would not work That would work. However, imo a a/b with a heavily reduced tea will be much easier. STB's work ok, but i'm still convinced that mescaline fb and possibly other cactus alkaloids are soluble in the base water to an extent. At least that's what all the anecdotal evidence points to. This is even true with dmt to an extent. I like to reduce my 1st acid pull down to goo or resin, fb and dry with mgso4. Powder for max surface area, then dump this powder into d-limo. Let it fully decant and pour your d-limo off through a filter and you should theoretically have %90+ of the alkaloids pulled. Once more to get the rest. To me this method is much easier to just get the hard work over with 1st and have pullings be a breeze. It seems like the most time intensive part of the process, and i really think its easier in the end. It also requires no turkey basting of your np  . However this is just me, and i had to do this tek a few times to really get it down to my preferences & likings. "let those who have talked to the elves, find each other and band together" -TMK
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So do you just mix the epsom salts in with the freebased resin?
Ive always pondered doing an extraction in this way, but for some reason never did... I think it was only because of one unconfirmed post by somebody regarding low yields using a dried freebased mix.
But it makes sense that it should work just fine. I like it!
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huachumancer
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t bridgesii
12 1 foot cuttings, despined, deskinned, decored
green flesh dried
bassified with lye
water added post homogenous lye cacti powder finished
orange oil as nps
salted with hcl
cleaned with 2x dry acetone
yield 6g tan powder
%5
note: found it wasnt worth the time after pulls because the last salting was 75 mg (6th pull)
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