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Eaglepath
#21 Posted : 11/5/2019 2:21:06 PM

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Yes its a very potent plant. Usually when I do cermonies I give these dosages to people, around 10g or 20g if I work private with someone and we have some history behind us. The 30g level was used during a long initiation of learning, no dose I would do again if Im not getting close to my death bed. Usually nowadays somewhere between 10-15 is enough.
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rOm
#22 Posted : 11/5/2019 2:45:43 PM

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Seems like virola theiodora is very rare to source as legit, active. And never heard of anyone successfully extracting.
bUt heard of few poeple who did have experience with locally made snuffs. so that's what am gonna go for. not gonna extract from 2 gram snuff. and its not cheap like mimo. so first let's see how active it is.
yes I have chaliponga I either dose 5 grams with 20 gr cruna or with 2 gr cubes.
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Eaglepath
#23 Posted : 11/5/2019 2:53:27 PM

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I just oredered some Virola Theiodora bark that said be rich of resin.. Dont know, lets try somethingSmile
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rOm
#24 Posted : 11/5/2019 9:00:32 PM

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I mean that's still nice to try chew chalionga, just not to spread false hope chaliponga is a good 5 meo dtm source whenits likely not. Now virola theiodora bark resin seems richer,but only hard to find in most parts.
ButI'd say its my best bet right now as the 5 MeO DMT used traditionally but plant based. So basically we can go to the people there who use it ( as snuff usually or orally as pellets, the pellets could also be smoked. I think am gonna try the three routes ).
We sure need to domore research but staying careful with the results, as I see many online discussion wherepoeple think yopo is rich in 5 or that incilius alvarius is rich in bufotenin. The alvarius toad is the richezr 5 meo dtm source, organidc, that doesn't need necessarily ( never seenthat yet ) a separating and purifying,and can be up to 30% ( more often 15-20 % ).
Smell like tea n,n spirit !

Toke the toke, and walk the walk !
 
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