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How much changa should I smoke for the first time? Options
 
avillax
#1 Posted : 10/25/2019 1:52:49 AM
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Hello, I'm going to prepare my changa with the following ingredients and amounts, how much changa do you recommend for the first time, to try, not to have a breakthrough yet:

500 mg of (Banisteriopsis caapi leaf is common)
500 mg of Blue Lotus flower petals
500mg DMT
1.5-2g of Harmala alkaloid freebase (from caapi)

I will use
20ml of the highest purity ethanol available (preferably 80%+ grain alcohols, like Everclear). Make sure it is not a denatured alcohol used in chemical applications as these contain toxic alcohols or extremely bitter compounds.
2 small jars or shot glasses
 

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Thrasymachus
#2 Posted : 10/26/2019 6:39:22 AM

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Hi man!

The wonder of changa is that if you load it into a pipe or a bong there is no need to clear the entire bowl. Quite simply load the bowl and proceed to toke how ever much you deem yourself to be comfortable with.

Be sure to take it slow to begin with. I would suggest loading the bowl, but consciously proceeding with a small toke that I am certain will not floor me. Observe the effects, sublimate the experience.

( I say load it fully so that if you want to go further there is that option, quite literally, on the table. -- also don't hold the flame to the changa. Just get it burning.)

From there the choice is yours. One can hit the gas, or slam the brakes. This is in a sense the beauty of changa; the buildup of MAOI in your bloodstream means that each toke after the initial one will gain potency, not solely by measure of the actual size of that toke, but by a compounding effect of MAOI's building in your bloodstream.

With that in mind, be weary, and understand the compounding effect of a session of changa: start slow, enjoy yourself, and gauge your willingness to dive deeper.
The metaphysical comfort--with which, I am suggesting even now, every true tragedy leaves us--that life is at the bottom of things, despite all the changes of appearances, indestructibly powerful and pleasurable--this comfort appears in incarnate clarity in the chorus of the satyrs, a chorus of natural beings who live ineradicably, as it were, behind all civilization and remain eternally the same, despite the changes of generations and of the history of nations.
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FranLover
#3 Posted : 10/26/2019 7:42:15 AM

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^Spot on Thrasymachus

avillax wrote:

500 mg of (Banisteriopsis caapi leaf is common)
500 mg of Blue Lotus flower petals
500mg DMT
1.5-2g of Harmala alkaloid freebase (from caapi)


500mg of harmalas should be the correct thing, so it fits into the 1000mg of leaf. And I would personally only put 400mg in, just to be on the safe side.

Cherish the moment !
Todo lo que quiero es que me recuerdes siempre así...amándote. Mantay kuna kayadidididi~~Ayahuasca shamudididi. Silence ○ Shiva ◇ eternal Purusha.
What we have done is establish the rule of authority in silence. Silence is the administrator of the universe. In silence is the script of Natural Law, eternally guiding the destiny of everyone. The Joy of Giving See the job. Do the job. Stay out of the misery.
May this world be established with a sense of well-being and happiness. May all beings in all worlds be blessed with peace, contentment, and freedom.
This mass of stress visible in the here & now has sensuality for its reason, sensuality for its source, sensuality for its cause, the reason being simply sensuality.
 
avillax
#4 Posted : 10/28/2019 7:41:36 PM
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Thank you so much for your answers!
 
 
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