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Came across Tabernaemontana undulata in my reading this evening, had never heard of it before. Did a search for it on the Nexus here and nothing came up, looks pretty interesting and is a native American Iboga containing plant used by the Matsés. Figured I'd add a thread about it for posterity. Any of you guys familiar with it? Quote:https://en.wikipedia.org...Tabernaemontana_undulateTabernaemontana undulata, the Becchete or Bëcchëte (pronounced B'-chéw-teh,[needs IPA] a Matis and Matsés word for a medicinal plant) is a milkwood species in the family Apocynaceae. It occurs in the Amazon rainforest. Tabernaemontana undulata contains iboga alkaloids,[2] naturally occurring psychoactive compounds. Ibogaine is used in pain management and to treat opiate addiction. In addition, it is used to facilitate psychological introspection and spiritual exploration. In low dosages, ibogaine is a stimulant and aphrodisiac, while in larger amounts it is a divinatory medicine, similar to both Ayahuasca and Peyote. Author of this Post assumes no Responsibility, nor makes any Guarantee of the Accuracy or Validity of material in this Post. Material Contained or referred to in this Post is presented for Entertainment Purposes Only. This Material IS Not Intended to be Inferred, or Interpreted as Information, Advice, News, Instruction, or Factual Information.
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Its interesting and under-researched that Iboga alkaloid containing plants have a small "family" of their own. Hope one day I have the privilege to work with such things.
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A dedicated thread to these plants https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=33633Some people mistakenly think these plants contain ibogaine but they dont, they contain other related alkaloids. Ive taken sanango (related species) from the Yawanawa as eyedrops and it hurt like hell and felt like vision was clearer after but im not sure about any psychoactive effects, it was during an aya cerimony so i was already going through a lot hehe.
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endlessness wrote:
Some people mistakenly think these plants contain ibogaine but they dont, they contain other related alkaloids. Ive taken sanango (related species) from the Yawanawa as eyedrops and it hurt like hell and felt like vision was clearer after but im not sure about any psychoactive effects
The species is Tabernantemontana sanan ho, and the eye drops are called sanang a and are not meant to be psychoactive via ocular administration.
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Jagube wrote:
The species is Tabernantemontana sananho, and the eye drops are called sananga and are not meant to be psychoactive via ocular administration.
Im aware about the spelling of the latin name of the plant as you can see in the link. You are right generally the drops are spelled as sananga but the group I took it with when they pronounced it sounded more like sanango,I just wrote as I heard, as you must be aware popular names differ from area to area. But thanks for the comment try and help make the spelling precise. The psychoactivity is arguable in how the indigenous describe it because sometimes they say it increases good luck or makes you hunt better, but is that something psychoactive related like changes in how you interpret stimulus or is it a "spiritual/magical" thing, or just hopeful thinking, or physiological (improved eyesight etc).. ?
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Jagube wrote:endlessness wrote:
Some people mistakenly think these plants contain ibogaine but they dont, they contain other related alkaloids. Ive taken sanango (related species) from the Yawanawa as eyedrops and it hurt like hell and felt like vision was clearer after but im not sure about any psychoactive effects
The species is Tabernantemontana sanan ho, and the eye drops are called sanang a and are not meant to be psychoactive via ocular administration. what of oral administration?
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I tried sananga eye drops on its own, not combined with anything else.
Effects were quite short, not strong, but there was slight stimulation, it cleared my head similarly to kanna, together with specific changes in perception of light and physical space.
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