I am a very rational person. I need proof or at least a clear hypothesis and explanation why something is in a certain way and why is it possible... and DMT is of course a great menace to simple linear thinking, for which I am grateful, but I believe in strict rational assessment of the experience, not taking anything at face value...

Although the level of realism and conviction in reality of the DMT experience is THE SAME as the conviction of my own existence - if I doubt certain experiences it feels like I have to rationally deny them the same way as I would have to deny my own existence and experience of "ordinary reality" - even if we know it is only a consensual perception - it is still the one in which we are anchored and which is firmly perceived most of the time. But the DMT insight seems to be of equal, if not greater "realism"... doesn't seem to be just a part of this reality, but even larger or "foundational" to this reality...

Now to the actual question - who firmly believes in Alien contact after having the DMT experience?

My first experience was an "aha" moment, the clearly felt presence of Aliens (non-antropomorphic, really "alien", beyond our sci-fi ideas) that made it clear they are here from who knows when and maybe even built this place... Now, I always get the same presence, but lack the means to properly communicate... it just seems to be - "hello, we are here".

Is the amount of such alien experiences increasing? Is some sort of "contact" in progress? Are people like Andrew Gallimore on to something? When I learned about his ideas it immediately clicked with me... I guess he feels the realism of aliens in a similar way... as something concrete, not imagined or hallucinated... not some higher-self, etc.

I even get the alien presence on average dose of psilocybe mushrooms... At around 3g, at the peak, I enter the same hyperspace, get the same alien presence - like some "portal" was opened and I get in contact with the same "thing"... But fail to communicate meaningfully... I wish to get some proof, something to influence this reality... some technology or applicable ideas that could make the contact widespread and public and maybe change our world to a better place... Then again - rationality kicks in and I have to ask - is this "real real" or just my subjective experience...

So, who believes in aliens with some level of certitude?

I mean.... I believed in aliens/extradimensional beings before I started taking mind expanding drugs

I’ve also believed pre DMT. I have now taken many journeys yet still fairly new to the spice. At first my experiences were like yours, they just made themselves “visible”. Most of the time it was like they wanted me to come deeper, follow them, or they were really trying to show me something. Every once in a while they show me things to help communicate, it’s like they are teaching me a new language and I’m starting to catch on yet still lots to learn.

Well, I don't believe in the "nuts and bolts" UFO thing at all anymore, but am now more confused than ever about what these things are. I think that most "paranormal" experiences are inter-related, and are extensions of human consciousness. In some way that I am at a loss to begin to describe and probably too dense and unimaginative to understand. How's that for a vague belief?

Cause you cant deny a vision

I believed in other alien life way before dmt….just the fact of the size of the universe that we know of (wich its probilly much bigger) I refuse to believe that life only arose in 1 planet in 1 solar system. Even tho most planets that we know of "couldnt support life AS WE KNOW IT" the size of the universe makes even a rare thing pop up more than once. Yes there is a difference in simple and complex life but same goes if complex life emerged here there is no reason it could somewhere else!

What dmt did for me tho was open up the possibility of life NOT as we know it. Just because our life doesn't work that way doesn't mean it doesn't happen!

I relayed a trip experience to fellow member. I wont go into the whole trip but his words back to me were something along the lines of..."That's what dmt is, its a mystery a enigma even if the space and entities had a badge that said this is REAL not just in your mind well...the badge would fake" I think this is very true most people experience this as real however as soon as your back that question might arise "did my brain just make this up or did I REALLY just go somewhere" I guess until a entity comes back with one of us and announces him/her self to the world we might always have this question. But honestly that is what I LOVE about dmt the QUESTION AND MYSTERY part of it!

Yes TalkingGarden, the universe is so big that there have to be others like us. What DMT does is it shows what it would feel like to be another life form, so you experience the aliens plight or glory, the slimy or the solid, the still and the moving.

Interesting thing is if dinosaurs or snakes arent aliens, but a life form from outside the planet is, why is that? Wouldnt all life forms originate from the same source? Our familial ties would explain why we are so well recieved

HAHA yes.....So much life right here at our own home that is so different from us in every conceivable way...But yet aliens from other worlds are mostly depicted as humanoid. Different color bigger head maybe smaller body....but clearly has head shoulders 10 fingers and 10 toes! I think the universe was designed this way. It makes us wonder and imagine but yet we find brothers and sisters EVERYWHERE

It is a great question and prior to DMT being the realist I am I was...not convinced one way or the other. I think for me I spent too much time focusing on this question when ... maybe the answer doesn't really matter as much as what you can learn from the overall experience and message. My first breakthrough was of the love of my life who had passed very suddenly and tragically. At first I was sure it was really her. Later I learned that wasn't the lesson or the message. It was about forgiving myself and providing a way.

After several dozens of DMT trips I believe these are part of your subconscious and that our subconscious is far more powerful than we often attribute. And maybe there is some connection to a collective consciousness or...? These beings I believe are part of how your subconscious presents things to you. Like a dream but even more powerful. Your subconscious holds perfect memories of everything you ever saw or felt and there is a unique ability for DMT trips to use this info in many powerful ways to make its point. Beings can be one way. I have had deep trips involving beings, including people now dead or people now alive. But I have also had silly ones for example I was taken on a tour of this self building city by its mayor -- a talking walking cartoon toothbrush that held my hand while each step we took across this bridge was quickly built before the next step was taken. So it felt like your walking on nothing.

I once wondered how much DMT can make you laugh and the next trip something whispered every funny thing i ever heard in my lifetime into my ear in one single word and two hours later I still simply couldn't stop laughing. My sitter was worried my ribs were killing me. For a brief moment I thought I may die laughing.

However - I have had beings play elaborate pranks and jokes on me that required pre planning unknown to my consciously. I still do not fully understand how this is possible, I hope to have these trip reports written soon. I am very interested in hearing others experiences involving subconscious memory.

Interesting, you see, I don't have those hyper-realistic trips of weird world, jesters, etc. I get abstract patterns and "4D/5D" deconsctruction of reality if I open eyes - it looks like it stretches out into impossible added dimension, it is not 3D anymore... and often deconstructed... when I come down it looks like a program has to reconstruct a simple 3D model - it looks glitchy before it settles down as normal 3D reality again - a moment before it becomes "normal" again it looks like it stretches out into some weird additional dimension that is hard to describe in words.

The "aliens" I experienced were very alien to my mind and seemed much wiser than anything I would hold in my subconscious... but who knows... they were more a "presence", indisputable intelligence communicating something beyond my comprehension. And the perceptual reality of them in that state is the same as the reality of my existence in "normal" conscious state...

I guess until we have something to bring back that can be "shown" universally also to those without a experience, we won't be sure - meaning - sort of technology or novel ideas that couldn't possibly be our own construct... or knowledge of some far worlds that can be checked via physical world observation... you know "Contact" kind of stuff or "Arrival"...

I've had this feeling of encountering alien presence on both LSD and shrooms. Do I believe it's real? I'm not sure, I would say - I don't want to believe in it or disbelieve, that was very interesting encounter. I do believe however in some spiritual beings so why not believe in meeting aliens I ask myself? Well, if I judge aliens as spiritual beings then maybe yes, but I see typical alien as something as humans but coming from other celestial bodies so I'm kinda conflicted if they could travel in different "dimensions" and meet us during our mind expanding experience? ( Expanding at least to dimensions where they can be ) That's interesting concept indeed.