.debs are back-in-the-day too

ext4 on Fedora is default
http://www.techradar.com...buntu-for-fedora--626968

face it, ubuntu is for n00bs, and fedora IS more advanced than ubuntu.

I wouldnt call myself a noob really. I have been using ubuntu since it was a royal pain in the ass. Now that I am having fun with it I get reduced to Noob lolol ugh


I think Fedora is for guys who like fairy ass blue lol
just kiddin brother.

i know
and brown is..well.. brown.

several years ago i started using suse, which really makes ubuntu look half-assed.

Man I got my shit all dialed and everything and now I'm having an inferiority complex over here. lol
Ill look into fedora and check it out.
But Im still loving the Ubuntu.

Zenbuntu

Ya opensuse is by far my favorite, benzyme you have nice taste in distros

opensuse is incredibly flexible, very powerful distro
ubuntu is rather limited and novice in comparison

alright Ill try out Suse see what happens.
I Notice Suse is 4.7 gigs
ubuntu fits on a cd
can ya tell me what all the goods are to make the operating system that large?
I also really like gnome and its apps being stable as they are.
Ive have not tried KDE and am weary to do so.

that 4.7gigs is the install DVD, which includes a lot of repositories.
any Live version of a distro fits on a CD, including Suse.
but bootable CDs are passé, boot from USB instead. look into unetbootin
and try any of the several flavors of Linux on a USB stick.

reboot your comp, hit F12 (or whichever function key lets you boot from the different drives on your comp), and run default option for the linux distro. it runs from RAM, so your OS remains the same.

if you like the distro, there's an icon to install to your HD.

all of these are overbloated - netbsd ftw.

bah

gentoo, xfce.

I am also loving windows 7, however Ive had a few BSOD's. when I had my sound card (profire lightbridge) installed on the motherboard's firewire I would get random IRQL_LESS_NOT_EQUAL errors, which was sorted with a PCI firewire card.

but now, It'll crash infrequently with a bsod reporting .sys file. as soon as I catch it happening again and remember the name of the file, it'll be running 100% stable.
im so excited, new things for christmas, including a long, long, long overdue flatscreen! (i totally deserve it, should've had one ages ago. AGES AGO!!!!1)
I hope you all have been good boys and girls?

I love my Ubuntu as well. Used Suse and Redhat way back in the day. Suse has always been nice, maybe I'll try it out again. I thought Ubuntu changed to ext4 for default in the 10.x series.

I believe it is now.

and F-15 comes out in may
(still rolling with F-14)

Ubuntu is no less advanced than any other distro, it continues to have the best package management system of any distro (thanks to debian), but maintains a user interface that is easier to use for most folks. This doesn't mean it is any less advanced or open for tweaking than any other distro. In the end it is just your preference, I particularly like the debian package manager - and grew to like it back when rpm's were the nightmare of nightmares for package management. I'm sure suse and fedora have improved their package management over the years, but ubuntu's system has yet to fail me - so I tend to stick with it. There's no reason to argue about which is better, one of the reasons open source is so cool is because so many different varieties can coexist at once providing us with options and choices - to claim that ubuntu is 'for noobs' is just kinda silly and suggests that maybe you don't really know yer way around linux. It might account for the needs of users with less experience, but it doesn't hinder more experienced users from utilizing the full potential of their systems in any way.

is that in response to something i said over a year ago?

ubuntu doesn't update its packages as frequently as fedora, period.
it's just not as bleeding-edge, that's all

ubuntu is out of the box functionality, like the osx of linux. fedora has a different learning curve, generally favored by people who're more familiar with compiling packages.

This isn't true, both distros use systems that incrementally update based on which updates have been pushed by the developers. If you're talking about the base install, I'd love to see some evidence of this, and compare features. But really, there isn't anything you've said to suggest that any other distro is in any way better than ubuntu, other than your personal opinion that ubuntu is 'for noobs' or that other distros are 'flexible' or 'powerful'... in what ways? What specifically is cool to you about fedora or opensuse? Let's get into some details here. I actually got to try out opensuse a few years back to evaluate if it should be adopted for limited use with state agencies, while I supported its adoption then simply because it saved money and I wanted to see linux begin to gain support in this area, I found opensuse to be even more stilted than ubuntu in terms of a user interface that was needlessly dumbed down and tweaked only for the purpose of making it look unique.

http://mybroadband.co.za...13806-Fedora-Ubuntu.html

if anything is dumbed down, it's ubuntu.
Opensuse used to be very intensive in terms of package installation, no idea if they worked out the kinks of yast

From what I read in that article - "Fedora has gained a reputation for being more experimental than most Linux releases. As the community edition of Red Hat, Fedora is a test-bed for its commercial big brother" - it would seem that fedora is basically the alpha version of redhat where they test out new technologies before implementing them in their commercial distro. You know, ubuntu has alpha releases as well (they just chose not to give them a new name) - you could be the guinea pig for all the new up and coming open source software with any distro, this isn't something that is unique to fedora, and is certainly not something that makes it any more 'flexible' - 'experimental' sure, but that doesn't sound so promising. Fedora makes two major releases every year... Ubuntu follows exactly the same schedule, if they didn't make different decisions about what new software to adopt and what old software to continue using, they'd be essentially the same distro.

Fedora is the experimental 'spin' of Red Hat Enterprise, which happens to be the distro of choice in National Lab supercomputers

the packages offered for both ubuntu and fedora are nearly identical, no real advantage there.
however, the default Ext4 filesystem was offered in fedora first. if there are any advancements in linux filesystem indexing, you'll likely see it in Fedora before Ubuntu.
thus, ubuntu is for noobs. It should be called n00buntu.