SWIM just tested about 9-12 mg of his pure white spice he made in 3 hours. (only .05% yield in the 3 hours though)

SWIM is confused why people like pure white, it is super harsh....

Anyway SWIM did a bioessay on about 5-8mg of thujone extraced from wormwood.

Holy crap this is exactly what SWIM wrote while coming down:

"Holy fuck.
I just took maybe 9-12mg of the spice and i didn't finish the pipe because it was so harsh.

This was so completely different than any other trip

There were 2 "elves" one with a beard and one girl and they were rolling around dancing and going ape shit to the music. SO FAST!

The smoke was so fucking harsh, I could not finish it.

Anyway the spice was 3 hour lime-naptha spice. Shit man

OF course I think that what could have made it so intense is the thujone I took earlier. HOly shitmonkeys."



SWIM extracted the pure thujone via heated naptha, it was super easy. Just a non-polar extraction and evaporation.

SWIM has yet to try it with alcohol, he was thinking about doing it tonight.

Anyway the trip was really cool because the DMT still had the body and mind high of 10mg, IE: feeling that you are high, nowhere near ego death.

But the visuals are CRAZY FAST, clearer and less cartoony.


SWIM is going to post a detailed thread about his new spice tek and wormwood extraction once they have been tested full but he just wanted to mention that thujone potentiates DMT!

Intersting . Was the Thujone Smoked ?
http://www.thujone.info/thujone-absinthe-20.html
Also be careful

Interesting! Dreamer has smoked wormwood extract, wonderful for watching a play or just going for a walk (after calculating dose carefully), it puts him in a very philosophical mood. I'd be interested to hear more about how it affects the trip qualitatively- is it better, worse, or just different?
Thoughts on safety for this combo would be helpful, too.

White sage is a far superior source for Thujone.

Yes I'm told it's a lot more palatable and stronger, haven't got round to trying it yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_apiana
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemisia_tridentata


Do both Sages contain Thujone ?

I was told to just smoke common sage, the normal cooking one.

That second one you posted says toxic, so better to avoid that one, no?

He took it orally, 5-8mg dissolved in canola oil, it dosen't work orally unless dissolved, at least not for SWIM.

SWIM is also aware it is very dangerous at high doses. He is very careful.

SWIM jsut bought a 1lb of wormwood and that is so much he will have far too much to consider buying any sage.

How much hot naphta would you use for 50g Artemisia Absinthum ?
Is the Thujone extract dry ? How long did the naphta evaporate ?
I wonder if its even possible that no traces of naphta remain in this wormwood extract .
Maybe its better to stay food save here (like with ethanol)

.
.You mention it made you feel philosophical. This is my great interest in it. From what I have read from erowid, absinthe really seems to bring out the poets-soul. All accounts are philosophical and flowery. As far as I am concerned, the amount of brain-damage I inflicted upon myself in the dark time, absinthe would be a worthy sacrifice.

Synergizing thujone and spice sounds like a path I will find myself on in the close future.

Having just found salvia, I am learning the benefits of plant ally's and their spice-induced crash course wisdom. DMT just seems to blend well with SO MANY other entheogens.

Good idea! Thanks for the report and the inspiration.



Namaste,

J
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The spice seems to really respond positively to just a crumb of white sage in your bowl or spliff!
Same way smoking caapi leaves are EXTREMELY effective.


I smoke white sage when I've been drinking lots of beer. Very nice.

Interesting thing with the Beer and White Sage , House .
Does it reduce the alcohol effects ?




:idea: I might Infuse a mix of Salvia Officinalis and Salvia Apiana with Salvinorin A

... and very likely some Harmine (; - I'm gonna call it The Green Fairy

If you're ever too drunk just smoke WHITE sage, it allows you to experience what it's like to be really drunk without the ill effects. I don't know how it works, but it does in the same way absinthe does. Smells SO good.

All SWIM did was put the 50g wormwood in a plastic bottle which filled it 3/4 up and filled it up so the hot naptha was 1-2 cm above the wormwood.

It was shaken 3 times over the first hour and then sat for a day.

When it was ready to be decanted SWIM first put the bottle in a hot water bath to make sure there was the most solubility.
Plus SWIM later found out that Thujone is much more viscous at low temperatures so SWIM assumes it helped in that respect too.

The green naptha was put through a coffee filter quite easily and into a baking pan.

SWIM then put the pan over a pot with water and put it on medium high heat, a double boiler sort of.

As dangerous as it might seem, SWIM has never had a fire using his method and it is very fast. Also he makes sure to put the fan on high and window open.

After the naptha looks gone SWIM usually leaves it for 5 extra minutes just to make sure.

The result is a taffy-like green goo that is quite sticky.
SWIM believes it is upwards of 50% thujone...but that is just speculation from a slightly different end product from a more diffcult and SWIM now thinks un-neccesary extraction.

A dose to feel the effects for SWIM is 5-10mg though he;s only tried it twice. But he took ~12mg without dissolving it and got no effects.

The effects alone are pretty mild. Slight tracers, sedation and brightened colors. SWIM also gets a little sinus pressure or slight headaches.
The dose to potentiate other substances may be much lower.


But the yield is very high. SWIM got 15 doses from 50g and was left a lot on the pan. He dissolved it in oil and gel capped it because thujone is quite bitter.

The thujone in the sage blocks GABA and increases dopamine/seratonin activity, which leads to more neuro-electric activity..sort of the opposite of alcohol..which is a depressant..

So it sort of cancels out some of the depressant effects of the alcohol and instead stimulates the neuronal activity..it has been found that ethanol is less toxic at high doses when present in absynth becasue of this synergy.

SWIM thinks he'll try some thujone w/ liquor tomorrow. Today he was busy testing the rate at which lime freebases MHRB, ha.