Can anybody comment on this tryptamine In what species it could be find I s this the major alkaloid in mimosa pudica. Can it be pulled the same way as DMT is and then recrystalized from heptane

ILPT isolated some white stuff from mimosa pudica and he thought is a spice

But is bloody weak Three four lungfulls bring on some visuals but is not as strong as spice should be

Can anybody comment Has anybody who`s experienced with spice tried NMT and how it would compare to N,N DMT

Please help ILPT doesn`t know what`s wrong

There is no analytical machine nearby no gc,lc,not even tlc so he isn`t sure what he has extracted

He just simply did 5 boils on 250 grams of powdered bark. 1st two with 4 tablespoons of 10% gar in about 1,5 liter parboiled tap water for about an hour. 2nd two with only 2 tablespoons of gar in 1,5 l for about 45 minutes and last boil just with 1l of water. He strained trough the fine kitchen mesh after each boil and let settle for an hour or so. Then decant liquid to pooling container and returned settled mush back to following boil. After he pooled all boils to pooling container he let it settle overnight and more sediments precip. He carefully decanted reddish liquid and filtered trough a big plastic funnel with large cotton pressed plug in the bottom of funnel. He boiled it down on lower heat on hotplate and filtered again like before. He ended up with about 400 ml of brown-reddish liquid which he basifyied with solid sodium carbonate to obtain greyish very foamy liquid. This wasn't desirable as it would make emulsion so he added diluted solution of lye and end up with about half an liter of black thickish viscous liquid with pH 14. Then he pulled with dcm (only twice because he ran out of dcm, but normally he would pull 5 times!) About 50 ml of separated dcm was rinsed with about 300 ml of cold parboiled tap water then twice with about the same amount of almost saturated sodium carbonate solution in distilled water and then twice with distilled water. He separated dcm after last wash and poured over a few grams of anhydrous epson salt to get rid of all water and evaporated after filtration trough coffee filter. In matter of minutes with aid of fan, but no heat he obtained almost gram of waxy amber jungle spice. Then he just rex from heptane once and have to do it once more to get rid of all that yellow tint. He expecting about 500- 600 mg of white spice after 2nd rex.

Thanx God ILPT thought he`s got numb to the amazing effects of DMT This is trully not a DMT It`s there any quick kitchen analytical method to confirm that this is NMT

There is no much information about it out here even erowid failing and shulgin didn`t say much either

How much one need for good breaktrough orally with MAOI???

Well he turned little bit of it to nmt hydrochloride and melting point was very close to one stated by shulgin so he is almost sure he has a NMT
Would be 5oomg with 200mg of harmine dissolved in orange juice alright ?

SHIT, man there is very little info out there about NMT but ILPT just found out that it's melting point is very close to(almost identical with) NET. Screw that man. Do you have any info stating what alkaloids exactly mimosa pudica contain ? Ilpt had very dry mouth overnight after he smoked some of his spice yesterday and the day before. He is a bit worry to ingest it with harmalas despite the fact is very pure white stuff. This stuff is not only weaker but also shorter acting then the real spice. It's good for beginners, but ILPT need strong powerfull stuff to finally see some of this hyperspace entities as you already know.

did you email your vendor? as I suggested in another thread, he might just have labelled as mimosa pudica for customs sake, while its actually hostilis...

^^ he said he normally carry hostilis,but this particular batch was offered for significantly lower price and only later on after few complaints he asked his supplier who's confirmed it was pudica. He promised that he has hostilis now but parrot not gonna buy from him anymore. Nobody has no experience with NMT or NET ? That's weird, as this tryptamines are more abundant then DMT. Nobody else apart spiceman's swim noticed 'weaker' spice after extraction ?

people are passing off m. pudica as m. hostillis? Thats wrong on so many levels.
but why are you buying mimosa hostillis from eBAY? stick to the online vendors,
reputable and propper

"swims last bags from him were even labelled m. pudica. The bark looks the same,"

i cant see how this is possible - m.pudica is a very small plant - m.hostillis is a tree, the roots of m.pudica are big for such a small plant but iv never seen one even reach the thickness of a standard bic lighter.

There is no way that the bark or root bark of m.pudica and m.hostillis could be confuzed - they are just too different in size.

how do the xtals look - this could streighten out another post http://www.dmt-nexus.me/...&m=100032#post100032

Sorry ILPT never seen any mimosa plant as they doesn`t grow where he lives. He talking based on what was product labeled like and what vendor say. He did buy from same bloke who`s running e-bay galactic toad but not trough the e-bay.

Whatever species it was it surelly wasn`t mhbr. It firstly looked like MHBR but after closer observation it was more pinkish and it smelled different.ILPT has good nose and can smell very subtle changes between even simmilar compounds. Like he can smell difference between white and black pepper which many people can`t.

Whatever species it was it caused loads of trouble during the extraction

He used very pure solvents and chemicals this times, They were no naphta or some lighter fuel shit. He used pure n-heptane for rex and pure dichlormethane for extraction. He has food grade vinegar but agin very clean white one (9%) none of the yellowish stinky malt shit

Melting point of this freebase is about 30 C more then DMT

According to wiki DMT freebase m.p. 40–59 °C
NMT freebase m.p. 87–89 °C
NET freebase m.p. 87–88 °C
It can be NMT or it can be NET or it even can be something else with just little DMT in it

He has no acces to university libray or university laboratory where he used to borrow at least TLc plates and agents like sodium nitroprusside.

He would get to point of crystalization of this white powder at some point, but is sooo busy now.

He has no more holiday until middle of january and he need to finish washing his mescaline hydrochloride and try to separate and somehow clean up nonmescaline alkaloids. He also need to extract some spice as he has none left apart this dodgy one and end of the year is comming. He had plans to have great mescaline mushroom pharma combo and bloody galactic toad boy ruined it

This just need to wait. Please please please any theoretic imputs, experiences or even if svim can get hands on some papers about NMT and NET would be very appreciated.

Please Thanks

Perhaps SWIY have regular tree bark and not root bark? The alkaloid ratios might vary significantly. Or you could have some variety or related species which just happens to make more of some inactive alkaloid. Its tough to say what the alkaloid is without more data. Melting point is a start though.

5-hydroxytryamine has also been reported in mimosa. If a list of alkaloids could be found and their melting point we can at least start making guesses.

Alkaloids ratios probably also vary with age.

edit: SWIM was looking through some old theoretical mass data. There is evidence for NMT in mimosa. Its been reported before too. So makes sense that SWIY might have it. However why this particular batch of bark might have so much NMT and so little dmt is unknown.

I thought that many DMT plants also contain NMT. I believe mimosa contains NMT all the times, but also some types of virola.

I remember 69ron writing about virola resin, that it is very simmilar in effects to psilocybe azurescens.
Could that be, because similarity between beaocystine and NMT? (i believe that beaocystin is 4-HO-NMT or something in that direction)