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theMyndsAye
#1 Posted : 4/15/2020 9:43:09 PM
I wanted to share a recent experience that SWIM experienced that they found very interesting.

SWIM has found that most spice experiences are fairly different, some more so than others. They have had one recurring experience though. The best way the experience can be described is rapidly changing visuals that are almost accompanied by rapidly "spoken" words, all random, which felt maze like. They have had this experience 3 or 4 times, each being almost exactly identical except for the last.

The last experience started out exactly the same, however, during the rapid fire nonsense, they "recognized" a pattern and it was as if a code was solved. The chaos immediately dissipated and it was almost as if a gate was opened to a beautiful "city" of sorts. They were shown a tranquil place of peace and harmony (at least from what they could tell). There were no entities that could be seen, but it seemed as though many inhabited the place.

Has anyone else ever experienced a similar journey after what felt like a decoding experience, or even just a decoding experience at all?
We're all in this together and we are all from one, so to help each other is to help ourselves, and to better ourselves is to better others.
 
Ovidiu
#2 Posted : 4/16/2020 3:19:41 PM
Hi

It took me three years to decode some stuff that I wrote on a paper in an after-effect wave post aya ceremony. :-) it was a breathing rhythm and some cosmology stuff.
Usually, the information uses my mind symbols and images, and I get the message quickly, but sometimes the meaning is far from my conscious area, and it takes me some time to decode the stream.

But usually, when I navigate through experience, I use the feeling, the perception, as a decoder, and I allow my perspective to change without understanding conceptually.

But it depends. Sometimes I let the information unpack as conceptual thinking or drawings. The side effect is that, if I stay too much in decoding-meaning mode, I lose the original configuration and cannot return to the same flow of experience :-)

O.
 
theMyndsAye
#3 Posted : 4/18/2020 12:58:03 AM
Thank you for your response. I know what you mean by staying in de-coding meaning mode and losing the original configuration.

The experience I am referring to in the instances I'm referencing seem to have no meaning other than once it was decoded (during the experience), it was almost like a gate was opened. Almost like the understanding the code was the key.

As I've reflected on it more, I've realized that the "code" was non-sense and didn't matter. The first few times I experienced it, it was humorously overwhelming. I think the key was that realizing it was non-sense and submitting completely to it as it took place. Once I did, the chaos immediately subsided and I was shown the most beautiful (and I mean this not just in the visual sense) place I have ever seen.

I have my theories on what it was about, but I'm still working through the post experience debrief.
We're all in this together and we are all from one, so to help each other is to help ourselves, and to better ourselves is to better others.
 
Icyseeker
#4 Posted : 4/18/2020 4:16:22 AM
Not a dmt trip but sometimes when I am going to bed I get into a state that starts ordering my state of mind. I have no other way of describing this but things go from chaos to extremely orderly and I start having faint visuals before I "black out" wake up in the morning. The state of mind feels amazing and my waking conscious associates it with restfulness of sleep.
May wisdom permeate through your life.

"What is survival if you do not survive whole. Ask the Bene Teilax that. What if you no longer hear the music of life. Memories are not enough unless they call you to noble purpose." God Emperor Leto ii

"The only past which endures lies wordlessly within you." God Emperor Leto ii
 
Anonymous2
#5 Posted : 4/18/2020 6:26:15 PM
theMyndsAye wrote:
I wanted to share a recent experience that SWIM experienced


Don’t let others take all of this wonderful drug while you miss the other dimensions.

Go first hand.
 
Icyseeker
#6 Posted : 4/19/2020 1:54:43 AM
Anonymous2 wrote:
theMyndsAye wrote:
I wanted to share a recent experience that SWIM experienced


Don’t let others take all of this wonderful drug while you miss the other dimensions.

Go first hand.


Usually SWIM is used to distance oneself from activities that are viewed negatively by society.
May wisdom permeate through your life.

"What is survival if you do not survive whole. Ask the Bene Teilax that. What if you no longer hear the music of life. Memories are not enough unless they call you to noble purpose." God Emperor Leto ii

"The only past which endures lies wordlessly within you." God Emperor Leto ii
 
Ovidiu
#7 Posted : 4/19/2020 6:15:23 AM
theMyndsAye wrote:
Thank you for your response. I know what you mean by staying in de-coding meaning mode and losing the original configuration.

The experience I am referring to in the instances I'm referencing seem to have no meaning other than once it was decoded (during the experience), it was almost like a gate was opened. Almost like the understanding the code was the key.

As I've reflected on it more, I've realized that the "code" was non-sense and didn't matter. The first few times I experienced it, it was humorously overwhelming. I think the key was that realizing it was non-sense and submitting completely to it as it took place. Once I did, the chaos immediately subsided and I was shown the most beautiful (and I mean this not just in the visual sense) place I have ever seen.

I have my theories on what it was about, but I'm still working through the post experience debrief.


Well, we are talking about the same patterns. This is what I wrote some time ago

"When flowing through DMT vibrational experience, the content is irrelevant for understanding and managing the experience. The type of flowing is what matters most. The speed of information is so high, that it is impossible to decompress it entirely and understand it logically moment-by-moment.

But, using psychedelic visions as a feedback tool, we can navigate through the experience while having a glimpse of understanding. The “feel” of the visions is important, not what generated it. Inside the DMT experience, we can navigate by heart, so to speak, using the emotion of the vision as a perceptual carrier-wave."

In my view, what you are talking about is about being aware of the moment when the overall synchrony is fair enough to generate the "this is the code" experience. When the mind reaches a synced configuration, it generates "the decode experience" using the available tools (words, images, perceptions, etc.), then it continues to flow. The "code" is always followed by a shift in perspective/perception.

When I navigate through experiences in an intentional way, as I prefer to do usually, the coding+shifting perspective flow happens multiple times. Especially when I jump in and out of some streams. I skipped paying to much attention to the code itself because my attention is focused on connecting with the stream as a whole, directly. Absorption-style, or samyama (fusion). When the contact is established, bing, the succession of "decode" + new meaning + new configuration happens.

So, decoding is in fact reflecting the tuning-to moment, IMO.

Icyseeker - I also like to let the reorganizing process happen and watch it as I go to sleep. I called it "processing the information of the day". It happens naturally, anyway, but it's nice to witness it. Sometimes (many times in fact) I intervene and make some adjustments to my automatic patterns :-)

O.

 
theMyndsAye
#8 Posted : 4/19/2020 6:50:21 PM
Icyseeker wrote:
Not a dmt trip but sometimes when I am going to bed I get into a state that starts ordering my state of mind. I have no other way of describing this but things go from chaos to extremely orderly and I start having faint visuals before I "black out" wake up in the morning. The state of mind feels amazing and my waking conscious associates it with restfulness of sleep.


That is incredible. I typically fall asleep nearly instantly and have no recollection of that process, but I do vividly remember dreams. I am very intrigued by what that is like. The mind truly is magnificent.
We're all in this together and we are all from one, so to help each other is to help ourselves, and to better ourselves is to better others.
 
theMyndsAye
#9 Posted : 4/19/2020 6:55:02 PM
Ovidiu wrote:
theMyndsAye wrote:
Thank you for your response. I know what you mean by staying in de-coding meaning mode and losing the original configuration.

The experience I am referring to in the instances I'm referencing seem to have no meaning other than once it was decoded (during the experience), it was almost like a gate was opened. Almost like the understanding the code was the key.

As I've reflected on it more, I've realized that the "code" was non-sense and didn't matter. The first few times I experienced it, it was humorously overwhelming. I think the key was that realizing it was non-sense and submitting completely to it as it took place. Once I did, the chaos immediately subsided and I was shown the most beautiful (and I mean this not just in the visual sense) place I have ever seen.

I have my theories on what it was about, but I'm still working through the post experience debrief.


Well, we are talking about the same patterns. This is what I wrote some time ago

"When flowing through DMT vibrational experience, the content is irrelevant for understanding and managing the experience. The type of flowing is what matters most. The speed of information is so high, that it is impossible to decompress it entirely and understand it logically moment-by-moment.

But, using psychedelic visions as a feedback tool, we can navigate through the experience while having a glimpse of understanding. The “feel” of the visions is important, not what generated it. Inside the DMT experience, we can navigate by heart, so to speak, using the emotion of the vision as a perceptual carrier-wave."

In my view, what you are talking about is about being aware of the moment when the overall synchrony is fair enough to generate the "this is the code" experience. When the mind reaches a synced configuration, it generates "the decode experience" using the available tools (words, images, perceptions, etc.), then it continues to flow. The "code" is always followed by a shift in perspective/perception.

When I navigate through experiences in an intentional way, as I prefer to do usually, the coding+shifting perspective flow happens multiple times. Especially when I jump in and out of some streams. I skipped paying to much attention to the code itself because my attention is focused on connecting with the stream as a whole, directly. Absorption-style, or samyama (fusion). When the contact is established, bing, the succession of "decode" + new meaning + new configuration happens.

So, decoding is in fact reflecting the tuning-to moment, IMO.

Icyseeker - I also like to let the reorganizing process happen and watch it as I go to sleep. I called it "processing the information of the day". It happens naturally, anyway, but it's nice to witness it. Sometimes (many times in fact) I intervene and make some adjustments to my automatic patterns :-)

O.




Wow... Yes. I am taken aback by how eloquently you stated that and your description has truly helped me to begin making more sense of SWIM's experience.
We're all in this together and we are all from one, so to help each other is to help ourselves, and to better ourselves is to better others.
 
 
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