I swear on a stack of TV guide. Last night, I was laying outside looking at the stars. Directly overhead, a V shape formation of lights materialized in about a half second and instantly accelerated and speed off to the north. I s close to the house and wasnt able to to track it visuals, but it was probably over Seattle in a couple minutes.It looked like this thing sort of "punched through" a membrane to come into view. There were 7-9 lights, of a bright star magnitude and the speed at which it flew made me think it must've been above the atmosphere to not produce a Sonic boom. It looked to have mass. Oh my God, who is driving that thing?

It was not a star, not an aircraft, not a satellite, not a hallucination.

I am not kidding and don't care if anyone believes me. I've been collecting a ton of mushrooms lately- and eating them- but was 100% sober yesterday and last night. This has changed me much in the way a powerful breakthrough does. In fact, afterwards I felt a sort of similar afterglow.

This place is stranger than we know. I didn't believe in them before 8:00pm last night. I'm a different person this morning.

Dammmmnnnnn....

Oh man, how I wish to see something like this one day... I know it in myself that there are sentient beings out there, with unimaginable technology and capabilities, but knowing something and seeing it materialize into being are two different things.

The locals that live near the oldest Thracian shrine in Europe say that they see UFOs constantly, and all sorts of weird things have happened. Some say they've seen reptilians crawl out of caves. Others report shapeshifting creatures. We know so little we might as well say we don't know anything at all.

Maybe what you saw were aliens, or maybe it was man-made technology that's kept in secret and experimented with gradually. Either way, an experience such as this indeed has profound transformational effects on us. Seeing something so mysterious opens up the way to such a vast plethora of questions with no answers that it sort of puts you into limbo and changes the way you feel about the world.

I envy you bro.

A(nother) wierd thing was that I was interested thinking about them. Staring into the sky, I was saying to myself how I could see how people could think they saw one. The city lights obscure the stars so that you can't see them directly, and they play tricks in the peripheral vision. But there was no second guessing this, it was an object, plain and simple and it was controlled and it was huge. I seriously doubt it ours...

Somehow, I think all this is related. Even though I had not eaten any, the mushrooms I had collected that day were strung up on a rack next to me... Maybe they were checking up to make sure I was taking care if their children well... My standing theory was that there are no nuts and bolts craft, but that UFO and paranormal activity is all related to the brain, and psychs can create the factors that allow them to occur. Now I'm not so sure about the nuts and bolts, but even more sure about the psych aspect. I had not eaten mushys for two days, but the two days prior I had, but not significant amounts.

Which is somewhat the conclusion Terence and Dennis came to while invoking the spirit of the mushroom in the Amazon. Read that book if you haven't, it'll blow you away.

I write the majority of TmK's stuff as entertainment more than anything else, but they were onto something there. What the connection is, who the hell knows. But this stuff is real. As real as anything. Jesus, my brain cracked wide open...

I envy you. I can only imagine the excitement if i would be so lucky to witness something like that.

Maybe one day...

Sh-- here we go again.

It's like you have these questions "is there a god?" "What does it mean" then you have some crazy experience that shuts the door on that little hut and exposes you to big, grand, incomprehensible stuff that is undoubtedly "real" but leaves you even more bewildered by being so. You almost wish it was IN validated.

And then, "are we alone", " are people really seeing these things". ...

Dammit.

I'm not sure if I needed to get any weirder...

Like physics, man, like... Everything. It's all broken down... We are so off base as a species.

Can't just not talk about it though.

If y'all count anything I've ever said as valid, this thing was material and real. Oh, man, I want to add thoughts here as they come. This is honestly no less powerful as a transitional thing as my deepest psychedelic experience, but so, so much more... What is the word... Able to disqualify me from rational discourse...

The lights you saw sounds very similar to the phoenix lights phenomenon in 1997, i've heard a similar eyewitness report of the same type of silent triangle lights seen by individuals in Utah.

The 2015 gimbal sighting off the USS Princeton observed the things flying in a synchronous formation as well, individual craft, but moving perfectly as one unit, and of course breaking the laws of aerodynamic or jet propulsion physics. However these things are flying, breaking the sound barrier without actually breaking it, they seemingly aren't even moving through the air, just ignoring it. Or in one way that we can understand, by moving the field of space-time itself.

If humans really developed that technology, which is unimaginably powerful (especially back in 1997, or even further back unexplainable sightings reported) we would have colonized the galaxy by now, yet the US military is still blowing hundreds of billions on what would be obsolete fighter jet technology, like f-22 and f-35. Whatever it is, it is beyond our wildest imagination

I recall another person from the way you talk about this. Someone who was quite intimate with mushrooms but would see UFOs all the time when sober. He didn't come off in the least bit crazy, in fact he seemed somehow more sober than most! He also talked about being more ready to see things, thinking in a different way and witnessing these phenomena more. There are psychedelic mushrooms of all kinds in abundance where he lives.



It's as good as anything

I don't want to discredit an observation but could it have been modern drones? They come unmanned, capable of g-forces and accelerations/decelerations that no living person could survive.







The pilots sit in a cosy chair, safe on earth, half a globe away if necessary.

I suppose they could make quite an unexpected spectacle in the sky.
China is into the game also.

null24 I'm not suggesting this was it because I don't know, just thinking about what we humans are up to these days.

I Googled "V shaped ufo" and got some pics- both alleged photographs and recreations- of craft that look exactly like what I saw. The interesting thing to me is the "longer leg". In image 1, there are 2 and 3 'lights' down the sides. The thing I saw I want to say had a total of 7 or 9 lights, with one "leg" being one light longer than the other. Most photos and recreations of sightings seem to have this...

And yes, this is not ours...no way. There is not a government in the world that could keep this secret. It would take such a massive amount of money, natural resources, manufacturing and labor, engineering and research that most of our STEM-employed public and private citizenry would be employees of the contractors. It would be the world economy.


Questioning welcome! I would say absolutely not, mostly because of the speed of the object and the fact that it "appeared" stationary, but the instant it was "there" sped off with no acceleration, at an incredible rate of speed. The entire sighting was maybe 1 and a half seconds but is burned into my brain.

I posted a thread here years ago, though I ended up taking it down. Was titled 'NO WAY IN TOTAL DISBELIEF....etc'. Was in 2010 me and 3 friends had a fire out on the property. Summer night, clear stary skies, was around midnight.

We'd vaporized fb dmt in the gvg about 1-2 hours prior, so in terms of relating it to the dmt or any residual effects, we were well at baseline. But we were sitting in the back garage just talking, my friend had went out to use the restroom outside, so after a minute or so he comes back in and tells all of us to get outside.

I'd initially thought sheriff, because sometimes they'll patrol on the rare occasion , maybe like once a year out around here, so we'd all gotten up and walked out there thinking along those lines.

These lights were all in the north/northeast section of the sky I remember. They probably had the magnitude of say when a planet's close, though several magnitudes brighter than that. They were all over that section of the sky, over 20 or so. They went through color scheme changes of orange/white/red I remember, but the strangest thing about it was that they weren't in any pattern/formation, they were all moving independently all over that section of the sky. They would dim out, sort've like how the aperture on a lens closing, almost immediate, then right after they'd pulse back out in brightness, then goes through the color shifts.

The other weird thing about it was as this was happening they would go in one direction for so long, then they would cut off at a 90 degree angle and fly in another direction, they repeated this every several seconds. All the lights were doing the same thing, and this is what they did for the entire time, just a repeated sequence almost. It went on for about 3 minutes, then they all went northwest/north, they fizzled out one by one, then that was it.

I've told this to some other members here over the years. Very strange experience. I don't know what to make of it even. I remember it decently well though. My one buddy got spooked pretty bad with the whole thing. For the couple months following when ever I'd bring it up or someone else I knew would - he'd just not want to hear it at all. Didn't want to talk about it.

It felt confusing when it was happening. Frozen, confused, scared, strange. Afterwards elated and wished it would've went longer. Funny how that can be.

Also have had a couple odd experiences after I had came down off 4g mushrooms a few times, well at baseline.

Interesting stuff null. Thanks for sharing.

Life's very strange.

No actually there aren't, the problem isn't directly the fact that a pilot couldn't survive the G-forces, the problem is there is nothing that exists that can even achieve the impossible acceleration. I'm speaking to the best evidence of the coast sightings off the aircraft carriers.

The only experimental hypersonic drones we have are capable of speeds between mach 5 and mach 7, but the only way they can actually be flown is when deployed by a jet flying at an altitude of 50 000 ft at speed of mach 3, the drones are deployed at this speed and altitude which then they are capable of accelerating to hypersonic speeds. The g-forces experienced there are still lower than that of a space rocket take off, so that isn't the problem. There is no known hypersonic jet or drone that can fly at low altitudes, and its not a matter of technology, the air resistance and incredible heat produced just makes it impractical. If a hypersonic jet was travelling above your head and was low enough for you to see it, believe me, you would know about it.

These things witnessed by pilots in the sky and recorded on multiple state of the art radar systems clocked these things doing mach 30 acceleration from a standstill at sea level. Something like this just doesn't make sense. See kinetic energy is increased exponentially due to speed, vs mass (KE=1/2mv^2). Thats why a relatively small asteroid can cause massive damage because of the extremely high speeds they are moving once they hit the atmosphere. The amount of energy is so great that pure metallic asteroids air-burst with the power of multiple nuclear warheads. An object that accelerates to mach 30 at sea level would provide the same signature, if it didn't detonate, the air would be at least super heated and cause multiple sonic booms. The kinetic energy transferred to the surrounding medium by friction/collisions would be detectable. Nothing at all like that was detected. No heat signature, nothing. It is seriously mind bending.

The laws of aerospace don't apply to these things, they simply aren't flying through the air. Hypersonic drones for example require hundreds of miles in order to make a turn, these things turn at 90 degree angles in 120mph wind as if it wasn't there. https://www.nbcnews.com/...s-it-calls-them-n1056201

I watched this thing where bob lazar explained that they move by bending the fabric of space time. They create a “pocket” constantly in front of the craft that “pulls” it into it.

Although this thing seemed to be structural, it did not behave as such. It acheived a speed I couldn't begin to estimate, but probably wouldve gone from horizon to horizon in less than 2 seconds. There was also no acceleration, it went from stationary to full speed instantly.

Lazar is an interesting bloke. There is a good Netflix video on him right now that you may be interested in watching.

I'm wondering what the function of the thing is... A lot of the talk around alien spp by alleged contactees speaks about the supposed peaceful motives of these things. Not all of it, there are the Ickes and reptilian theorists, but a lot seems to go that way. If we are using any of their propulsion tech, it is our militaries that are using it. I don't see why, if their agenda is peace, that they would help us build death machines. Although this is most likely just human dogma. Or we couldv'e stolen it from them. Or they themselves are at war. Or they are just observers. Or they made us. Or they are us, from the future, time tourists... Somebody knows.

Haven't met a "man in black", so that's prolly good.

You sure about that bruh?

Let's not completely rule out the possibility of these things being human-made though.

So, if this would be technology from our own planet, secret military technology, it would have to contain either a new sort of stealth technology that can distort radar signals in such a way that their location cannot be accurately determined anymore.

Or, if the data from the radar would be correct, they would have to be experimental weapons that in all likelyhood would not be vehicles, but rather projectiles. Objects, maybe tiny pieces of ceramic or simply plasma balls, accelerated to incredible speeds, maybe with powerfull lasers on the ground, meant to eventually crash into a target, carrying no load, because the energy that accelerates them IS their load. A sort of artificial asteroids or ball lightnings.

Would that be plausible?

Those suggestions aren't plausible based on the data, but don't take my word on it. I suggest you check out the interviews of the multiple pilots and radar controllers about the event, including the detailed reports and timelines, correlating visual report with electronic data. Including the near collisions that happened on the east coast in 2015. Radar malfunction has been ruled out, although the pilots radar systems actually experienced active jamming, which is a technological phenomenon (and actually an act of war if it came from another nation), which is why they couldn't actively track but only passively track via the pixels on the FLIR system. Yet the electro-optical data verifies that whatever the signal is it is of a physical nature, reflective, IR signature, etc etc, it's indisputable, and supported by multiple eye witness. It's not a projectile, at least, you should read the report (what kind of 'projectile' sits still under and above the water, moves erratically like shaking a pingpong ball in a plastic cup, then accelerates at 30x the speed of sound without a trace.).

They are the ones trained to observe and detect these phenomenon, and if they could offer a plausible explanation that didn't make them look crazy, they certainly would. It's not my opinion, I'm just relaying whats out there. The simple fact is, its all been considered, and nothing fits. They can't say what it is, but they can certainly say what it isn't.

By all means, it could be anything, but whatever you can suggest, it must at least fit the data.