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moclobemide first, then caapi and spice Options
 
Espiridion
#1 Posted : 12/28/2009 4:30:53 PM
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Taking Moc first and allowing it to run interference followed by a dose of harmalas and spice seems like one could use less harmalas. Anyone tried this method?


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Crystalito
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#2 Posted : 12/28/2009 4:40:32 PM
For an answer to be given one has to look at pharmacokinetics of both drugs in question (MAO inhibitors here) as well on binding study data : Yes, concomitant use of harmalas+ moclobemide might have an additive effect but...at what cost of sideeffects?

Personally, i have not looked conclusively into it, but given the abudance of harmala alkaloids i find it a bit unecessary.

Should you decide to move forward,tread lightly and start realy low to be sure.
 
freethinker
#3 Posted : 2/4/2010 9:44:18 PM
First hand experiments with oral Moclobemide and DMT were disappointing. The intent was to try to experience what exactly DMT is over a longer duration than the smoked experience but without the side effects that harmalas bring (since the minimum necessary amount of Mocobemide needed to inhibit oral DMT has no noticable effects of its own). The result was actually boring. Apparently DMT is rather soulless. It was not completely dissimilar to clean liquid LSD or extracted psylocin but without the depth or wow of either. It was just there. Not unpleasant, but not interesting at all. Since then, experimenting with varying combinations of the 3 primary harmalas in their pure form taken orally with DMT has proved far more interesting. The magic, as they say, is definitely in the mix. Don't see many people talking about Moclobemide, it would be nice to hear more first hand experiences.

Combining Moclobemide with harmalas, as you suggest, could be interesting though. Use the Moclobemide as the primary inhibitor allowing you to combine much smaller amounts of harmalas to bring the minimal amount of their magic to the party without their unwanted side effects... May try this, perhaps 150mg Moclobemide with < 20mg Harmaline to bring a little dreaminess... Never thought of this...

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